And to save further pointless discussion see:

http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/gmism/gmiindex.htm

Which is pretty much the FAQ for techdiver.

   Jim

Sender: S I L E N T  I M M E R S I O N  Date: 5/16/99 1:50 PM

>Mike,
>
>Check the archives under:
>
>-oms wings
>-bondage wings
>
>You will find many "oms wings for sale" too...  :-)
>If that says anything.
>
>Basicly the following problems:
>- hydrodynamics (not streamlined)
>- restrictive bungees
>- too much lift capacity (very large)
>- usually dual bladder
>
>Removing the bungees will leave you with very large wings, and all the crap
>that used to hold the bungees. Also I presume you use an oms harness. Those
>different from the DIR style too. Not one piece harness, many d-rings and a
>quick release to name a few.
>Using DIR style wings and harness leaves you with a much simpler, cleaner
>solution. This is part of the beauty.
>Ever seen Halcyon Explorer wings? These are really nice quality and made
>with an eye for detail.
>
>Regards,
>
>THOMAS
>
>
>
>At 10:04 AM 5/16/99 -0400, you wrote:
>>Okay "chief" , the auto deflate may be a "joke".
>>Can you outline the many problems. it seems as if any wings would serve as a
>>hemmoroid cushion.
>>Id rather dive my gear. Can you provide some constructive details or give a
>>reference to a archives or a website that would outline the weaknesses in
>>this system.
>>
>>In short I expect that the chief should be able to bash as well as convince
>>me why I should change wings. The auto inflate can be cured by simply tuning
>>the bands or removing them, this also takes care of the deflate at depth
>>problem. I know maybe ten divers very well who are using this system with no
>>problems. Not to mention the hundreds out there that are still in use.
>>
>>What are the main problems. What are the features of a good wing etc.
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Mike
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Jim Cobb [mailto:cobber@ci*.co*]
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 16, 1999 8:40 AM
>>> To: ajmurphy@sn*.ne*; techdiver mail
>>> Subject: Re: Bondage wings???
>>>
>>>
>>> As chief in charge of bashing Stuporwings, yes you have noticed one of
>>> these POS many problems. "auto deflation" what a joke... Now get rid of
>>> them while this "tech thing" is still hot, or you will wind up using them
>>> as a hemmorid cushion on long car trips.
>>>
>>>  Jim
>>>
>>> Sender: A.J. Murphy  Date: 5/15/99 6:24 PM
>>>
>>> >O.K., I admit it. I dive northeast (USA) shipwrecks with a set of OMS
>>> >95# bungee wings.  They seen to fit tight against my tanks and I have
>>> >not gotten hung up in any tight penetrations like U-853 or the San
>>> >Diego.  I like the feature of auto deflation that the bungees seem to be
>>> >performing.  I will say this though.  I still felt too buoyant on my
>>> >last two deco stops and have put on a total of 22 lb. of lead to over
>>> >come this.  I have heard from divers (that I respect) that these wings
>>> >actually trap some air.  And are impossible to orally inflate at depth.
>>> >I was going to try it last weekend at 110 fsw, but I forgot. (narked?)
>>> >Anyway, do you folks have any real data to support your disdain for this
>>> >type of BCD?
>>> >I came by them when I replaced my Zeagle Ranger in favor of a SS back
>>> >plate and harness. I'm also using L.P. 85's, with manifold of course,
>>> >and a neoprene dry suit.
>>> >Nobody has called me a stroke to my face, but I have a thick skin and
>>> >can handle it.  I'm just looking for info. here.
>>> >Dive safe!
>>> >
>>> >A.J.
>>> >
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