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Subject: RE: Bondage wings???
Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 15:07:16 -0400
From: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>
To: <mikejsk@ga*.ne*>, <ajmurphy@sn*.ne*>,
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Mike-

I've been down this road before. You cannot "just take off the bungees" 
go ahead and try it and do a couple of dives. Then try some standard 
wings. It only took one dive for me to figure it out, how many will it 
take you?

And as my momma used to say "well if all your friends jumped off a cliff, 
would you jump off too?". Just because OMS has a great marketing dept. 
does not mean the product is any good. How many pet rocks do you own?

Do yourself a favor, don't listen to me, go out and try some stanard AUL, 
Halcyon or DiveRite unbungeed wings and come back and tell me what you 
think. I've tried both and I've told you, so now it's time for you, 
chief, to step up to the plate.

   Jim

Sender: mikejsk  Date: 5/16/99 10:04 AM

>Okay "chief" , the auto deflate may be a "joke".
>Can you outline the many problems. it seems as if any wings would serve as a
>hemmoroid cushion.
>Id rather dive my gear. Can you provide some constructive details or give a
>reference to a archives or a website that would outline the weaknesses in
>this system.
>
>In short I expect that the chief should be able to bash as well as convince
>me why I should change wings. The auto inflate can be cured by simply tuning
>the bands or removing them, this also takes care of the deflate at depth
>problem. I know maybe ten divers very well who are using this system with no
>problems. Not to mention the hundreds out there that are still in use.
>
>What are the main problems. What are the features of a good wing etc.
>
>Thanks
>
>Mike
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jim Cobb [mailto:cobber@ci*.co*]
>> Sent: Sunday, May 16, 1999 8:40 AM
>> To: ajmurphy@sn*.ne*; techdiver mail
>> Subject: Re: Bondage wings???
>>
>>
>> As chief in charge of bashing Stuporwings, yes you have noticed one of
>> these POS many problems. "auto deflation" what a joke... Now get rid of
>> them while this "tech thing" is still hot, or you will wind up using them
>> as a hemmorid cushion on long car trips.
>>
>>  Jim
>>
>> Sender: A.J. Murphy  Date: 5/15/99 6:24 PM
>>
>> >O.K., I admit it. I dive northeast (USA) shipwrecks with a set of OMS
>> >95# bungee wings.  They seen to fit tight against my tanks and I have
>> >not gotten hung up in any tight penetrations like U-853 or the San
>> >Diego.  I like the feature of auto deflation that the bungees seem to be
>> >performing.  I will say this though.  I still felt too buoyant on my
>> >last two deco stops and have put on a total of 22 lb. of lead to over
>> >come this.  I have heard from divers (that I respect) that these wings
>> >actually trap some air.  And are impossible to orally inflate at depth.
>> >I was going to try it last weekend at 110 fsw, but I forgot. (narked?)
>> >Anyway, do you folks have any real data to support your disdain for this
>> >type of BCD?
>> >I came by them when I replaced my Zeagle Ranger in favor of a SS back
>> >plate and harness. I'm also using L.P. 85's, with manifold of course,
>> >and a neoprene dry suit.
>> >Nobody has called me a stroke to my face, but I have a thick skin and
>> >can handle it.  I'm just looking for info. here.
>> >Dive safe!
>> >
>> >A.J.
>> >
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