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From: "Jess Armantrout" <armantrout@wo*.at*.ne*>
To: <mikejsk@ga*.ne*>, "Jim Cobb" <cobber@ci*.co*>,
     , "techdiver mail"
Subject: Re: Bondage wings???
Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 11:50:55 -0500
a small leak in good wings is a pain, a small leak in bondage wings is a
death sentence due to "auto deflate".

trout

-----Original Message-----
From: mikejsk <mikejsk@ga*.ne*>
To: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>; ajmurphy@sn*.ne*
<ajmurphy@sn*.ne*>; techdiver mail <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Date: Sunday, May 16, 1999 9:19 AM
Subject: RE: Bondage wings???


>Okay "chief" , the auto deflate may be a "joke".
>Can you outline the many problems. it seems as if any wings would serve as
a
>hemmoroid cushion.
>Id rather dive my gear. Can you provide some constructive details or give a
>reference to a archives or a website that would outline the weaknesses in
>this system.
>
>In short I expect that the chief should be able to bash as well as convince
>me why I should change wings. The auto inflate can be cured by simply
tuning
>the bands or removing them, this also takes care of the deflate at depth
>problem. I know maybe ten divers very well who are using this system with
no
>problems. Not to mention the hundreds out there that are still in use.
>
>What are the main problems. What are the features of a good wing etc.
>
>Thanks
>
>Mike
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jim Cobb [mailto:cobber@ci*.co*]
>> Sent: Sunday, May 16, 1999 8:40 AM
>> To: ajmurphy@sn*.ne*; techdiver mail
>> Subject: Re: Bondage wings???
>>
>>
>> As chief in charge of bashing Stuporwings, yes you have noticed one of
>> these POS many problems. "auto deflation" what a joke... Now get rid of
>> them while this "tech thing" is still hot, or you will wind up using them
>> as a hemmorid cushion on long car trips.
>>
>>  Jim
>>
>> Sender: A.J. Murphy  Date: 5/15/99 6:24 PM
>>
>> >O.K., I admit it. I dive northeast (USA) shipwrecks with a set of OMS
>> >95# bungee wings.  They seen to fit tight against my tanks and I have
>> >not gotten hung up in any tight penetrations like U-853 or the San
>> >Diego.  I like the feature of auto deflation that the bungees seem to be
>> >performing.  I will say this though.  I still felt too buoyant on my
>> >last two deco stops and have put on a total of 22 lb. of lead to over
>> >come this.  I have heard from divers (that I respect) that these wings
>> >actually trap some air.  And are impossible to orally inflate at depth.
>> >I was going to try it last weekend at 110 fsw, but I forgot. (narked?)
>> >Anyway, do you folks have any real data to support your disdain for this
>> >type of BCD?
>> >I came by them when I replaced my Zeagle Ranger in favor of a SS back
>> >plate and harness. I'm also using L.P. 85's, with manifold of course,
>> >and a neoprene dry suit.
>> >Nobody has called me a stroke to my face, but I have a thick skin and
>> >can handle it.  I'm just looking for info. here.
>> >Dive safe!
>> >
>> >A.J.
>> >
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