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Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 00:00:22 +0100
From: Ingemar Lundgren <ingemar.lundgren@mb*.sw*.se*>
To: Rubrifolia@ao*.co*
CC: cobber@ci*.co*, techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: Pony thread
Pony bottles, hmm....  Is this the correct list to discuss this shit?  I suggest
you discuss this on the rec. scuba list instead. I thought we were supposed to
discuss technical diving here....

Rubrifolia@ao*.co* wrote:

> In a message dated 1/19/99 9:59:54 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> cobber@ci*.co* writes:
>
> <<
>
>  I have accomplished what I set out to do with this pony thread. That is
>  to encourage you all to think about why you use a pony rather than
>  mindlessly strapping one on the side of your tank because it's seems like
>  the cool thing to do.
>
>  I hope that this new level of consciousness about ponys will encorage
>  those deco diving with a single and a pony to reconsider what they are
>  doing. Considering this is "techdiver" I was kind of surprized as to the
>  outpouring of support for large ponys, which makes me suspicious as to
>  what you "techdivers" are doing out there.
>
>  >>
> Once again your arrogance is boggling.....without you none of us would be able
> to think through our gear and our gear choices.....all those boat rides spent
> noodling around gear, gear configurations and choices just never happen....all
> those dinners where the non-diving friends fall asleep in the mashed potatoes
> while the divers debate details just dont happen
>
> YOU are the one with blinders on ...the  only correct way from your argument
> is doubles...the reallity is that many people for many reasons will use
> singles and the reality is, or should be, to create as safe and complete air
> package as can be done......only your way is the correct way....and only your
> experiences...which from reading your posts is fairly limited......are used as
> validation.....yes, from a tech forum you got many responses,......where do
> tech divers come from???, they come from single tankers.....many divers --not
> yet tech, or on the borderline--as we all know from our private e mails--read
> this forum.....
>
> We are all part of a small community, the dive community....you stated that
> you are surprised that boats up here babysit divers.....again, what blind
> arrogance....boats are the great continuum of the community....boats are where
> the diver meets the reality of the ocean instead of the pool or
> quarry....boats are where the diver learns to be a diver....where divers give
> of their experience to the not yet divers....not by brass ball waving....at
> least not  all the time.....the boats I have sailed on were run by folks who
> live and breathe and eat diving....and they want safe, complete, competent
> divers....therefore they will spend time with divers....talking, teaching,
> directing, guiding.....we all started out clumsy klutzes with all kinds of
> gear all over the place....it took boats and going out continuallly to get the
> program together.....
>
> So, again, as I see it, but one of my boat Captains may step in to fine tune
> this:
>
> Single tanker should carry a pony used as a completely redundant, emergency
> air source...if its not mounted corrrectly, banging around or hanging you up,
> get someone on the boat deck to help you out...if there isnt anyone on that
> deck, get yourself to a better boat....
>
> Once your dive profiles start requiring more gas....move on to doubles....
>
> Once your dive profiles start requiring more gas ....move on to
> stages.....bigger bottles, bigger bottles, bigger bottles,,,,,<g>
>
>
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