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From: Phi Le <PLe@Se*.co*>
To: techdive@ea*.ne*, "'Case E. Harris'" <diveman@cy*.co*>
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: RE: CORRECT BOTTLE ID'S
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 23:35:15 -0600
Case,

I understand the advantage with 'touch distinguished regulators' as
outlined below. How do you feel concerning 2nd stage malfunctioning
on 1 of the deco regulators ?

If both regulators are identical, you could simply switch 2nd stages.
Otherwise, you might not be able to do so (fitting, IP, etc.). Of course,
if you are using yoke then you could switch the whole regulator.
I assume everybody uses DIN connection on deco/stage bottles, 
except for Jess Armantrout for reasons he stated earlier this year :)

Phi
> ----------
> From: 	Case E. Harris[SMTP:diveman@cy*.co*]
> Sent: 	Monday, November 23, 1998 11:48 AM
> To: 	techdive@ea*.ne*
> Cc: 	techdiver@aquanaut.com
> Subject: 	Re: CORRECT BOTTLE ID'S
> 
> John-
> 
> I suppose there is a chance that my information is out of date, as I've
> not renewed as an IANTD instructor this year (nor have I received
> further updates to their standards.) In light of this, however, I
> suggest you re-check your facts. The following is taken from the Feb. 1,
> 1998 revision of the IANTD Standards and Procedures Manual:
> 
> "Regulators used with tanks containing high levels of oxygen must also
> have green or white second stage covers and/or hose wraps or other means
> of identification as oxygen service regulators, leading to the second
> stage. Alternatively, the second stage purge buttons may be green or
> white."
> 
> Sounds like they want some color coding (or at least something
> DIFFERENT) to distinguish regulators on a "hot" or hyperoxic mix.
> 
> I'm not supporting either side of this discussion, just clarifying what
> I perceived to be a mis-statement of facts. Personally, I tend to use
> both 'touch distinguished regulators' and the method prescribed in DIR
> for getting the right gas. I would never switch to a gas just because
> the reg felt right or looked like the right color. I do, however prefer
> to have my O2 stacked on the bottom, so if I had dropped my bottles and
> vis went to zero, I could at least (by touch) get them stacked in my
> PREFERRED locations. By the time I'm ready to actually breathe from
> either of the bottles, I'd better be able to see the markings as to
> what's in them, or I WILL NOT BREATH FROM THEM! (even if the reg FEELS
> right.)
> 
> Okay, that's my quota of babble for the month...back to reading and
> learning!
> -Case Harris
> diveman@cy*.co*
> 
> John Walker wrote:
> <<portions deleted>>
> >  Third, IANTD does not require the use of different regs, poodle jackets
> > on the regs, marks on the regs or a color coded regs on any equipment
> > even stage cylinders.  And to rely on anything other than what has been
> > analized and properly marked on a sticker that does not come off with
> > water like masking tape, neither comes under any ageny standards or
> > course outline that I am aware of.
> 
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