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> Trust me dives are happening and its NOT  the 100% fault of the student. 

The student is fully at fault for going on any trust me dive Al.
There is no half pregnant Al.  The student is willing putting
themselves way beyond their ability level.

> In fact I'd say the more of a "trust me" dive it is < ie the less prepared
the
> student> the MORE responsible an instructor is and less blame the student
> should shoulder. 

Any student who lives in your utopia Al (where "trust me" dives
are safe), is also going to have to live in another utopia
of yours where every instructor is safe.

Since most of us don't live in that utopia Al, we have to
realize that all instructors are not going to be there for us 
at every turn. 

If all instructors will not be there for us, then it stands to 
reason you need to protect yourself and not put yourself at risk 
on "trust me" dives.

Your paradigm is flawed Al.  It assumes that a student need
take no responsibility since you think you can make every 
instructor safe.  You cannot.  Since you cannot, you have to
go beyond this bashing the instructor lynch scene.  To help 
prevent further accidents we have to get the students to look 
out for themselves.

You still haven't supplied an example training dive that any 
tech student couldn't prepare for.  You still have no
good reason for anyone to go on a trust me dive. 

> The more unprepared the student is for the class, the more it is the fault of
> the instructor for allowing them to be there in the first place. 

heehee, this is a funny way to shift blame Al.  

The instructor shares fault no matter what.  But this idea of 
the student not being at fault Al is bullshit.  You need to get 
beyond the idea you can never agree with anything I say.  Its 
getting kinda silly.

> No matter how prepared the student is, the paradigm remains the same. The
> instructor is responsible. 

And the student is not Al? 

Mike
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