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From: <KybrSose@ao*.co*>
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 14:53:29 EDT
To: zimmmt@au*.al*.co*
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: A Call to Arms
In a message dated 9/2/98 1:15:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
zimmmt@au*.al*.co* writes:

> There are few if ANY situations where a student need put themselves
>  in a "trust me" situation.  But that is what you seem to be advocating.
>  

Advocating?? You think because I am suggesting that the reality of dive
training is that students are not prepared for what they are doing and that
the instructor needs to be capable of dealing with that, that I am advocating
unpreparedness on the part of the student?  

I don't see the connection between the two Mike, and I suspect your changing
topics mid stream on me again here. 

I dont advocate trust me dives either, but I am willing to recognize that they
do occur and that they are not all the fault of the student. If an instructor
is training an unprepared student then they are also at fault right Mike?
Because a good instructor just refuses to train the student who is totally
unprepared from a basic skills or an experience standpoint, right Mike??  The
best instructor takes this student under her wing and brings them to the level
of where they need  to be-slowly-and then beyond to where they want to go,
right Mike?? 

You don't think that the classroom door should be open to all, and that if
their skills aren't good enough to survive then oh well, caveat emptor, do you
Mike?? Maybe you haven't noticed but thats what you have been saying, that's
where my awe for your inhumanity came from, my friend. 

Al Marvelli
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