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From: <KybrSose@ao*.co*>
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 16:08:06 EDT
To: zimmmt@au*.al*.co*
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: A Call to Arms
In a message dated 9/2/98 3:19:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
zimmmt@au*.al*.co* writes:

> Until that time the student is 100% responsible for going somewhere
>  they should not be.  
>  
>  Mike

Nice to see you snipped my post to hell, picking what you wanted.

As I have told you many times now Mike, 

You can't take only what you want to when you live in reality, you have to
deal with things as they are, not as you'd like them to be.

Trust me dives are happening and its NOT  the 100% fault of the student. 

In fact I'd say the more of a "trust me" dive it is < ie the less prepared
the
student> the MORE responsible an instructor is and less blame the student
should shoulder. 

Why?

say it with me now  gentle list members," becasue the Instructor knows or is
in a position to know more than the student. "

The more unprepared the student is for the class, the more it is the fault of
the instructor for allowing them to be there in the first place. 

The instructors need to " just say no" to the unqualified, inexpereinced and
unprepared. 

Until they do so, they will always be more responsible.

If you have a single parent hooked on crack, and their child burns their hands
on the stove, who is more responsible Mike, the Child who knows that the stove
burns, but just wants to be like her Hero Julia Chiles , or the Mother who
failed to supervise the child adequately??   Does it really matter if the
child practiced on her easy bake oven? 

No matter how prepared the student is, the paradigm remains the same. The
instructor is responsible. 

al marvelli


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