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Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 18:42:30 -0400
From: "Katherine V. Irvine" <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
Organization: DIR
To: pH <heseltine@ea*.ne*>
CC: RLatulip@ao*.co*, cavers@ca*.co*, techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: Here's the point!
Pete, it is about not knowing what you are talking about - you proved
your point. Give it a rest. We cave dive , you do not. What makes you
think you are the only guy who ever heard of a rebreather? If they
worked, everyone would be doing it. It appears that the same guys who do
everything, in fact do everything - rebreather or no rebreaher.

pH wrote:
> 
> Ray -
> 
> This really isn't about electronics. You can believe they will kill you and
> I can believe that they usually will not. Forget the electronics for a
> moment - I can fly my machine manually. So now, tell me you don't believe
> in the Geo Tooth Fairy who will save you from deco with a handful of pills
> and a stiff workout. I think/know/math/reason that a higher pO2 short of
> toxicity is a better choice for deco. It's that simple.
> 
> pH
> 
> At 05:27 PM 8/3/98 -0400, RLatulip@ao*.co* wrote:
> >In a message dated 8/3/98, 4:41:30 PM, heseltine@ea*.ne* writes:
> >
> ><<Ray - This is hogwash and you know it! Sooner or later we will ALL
die and
> >so will our machinery. Debating the relative merits of MTBF of your air
> >computer (whose battery you probably didn't check before the dive), an
> >SC-RB and OC is not the point. They ALL fail, occasionally. But, you are
> >changing the subject.
> >>>
> >
> >Give me a %^$# break all failures had nothing to do with the battery
> rather it
> >started telling me I had twice the gas I had when I started and for your
> >information it was not an air computer and it was supposed to monitor my
> >breathing rate as well which it did like shit. The point is not that it is a
> >computer but that it is a device that contains electronics you moron. And
> >secondly if they all fail occasionally all the better to not be depending on
> >them to maintain your PO2.  I would rather die old and dreaming about the
> >dives I used to do than young and leaving behind a widow.
> >
> >Electronics in a circuit are only as good as the components the vendor sends
> >you and if you think that their quality control is %100 all the time then you
> >are living in a fantasy world.  Did you sit there and run an oscilloscope on
> >every component to ensure that it met the specifications that it was
> supposed.
> >
> >Having tested power supplies for I.B.M. for several years and having had to
> >analyze the fallout I still will not bet my life on an electronic circuit.
> >
> >>>>The fundamental issue, which Geo refuses to address with any logic or
> >scientific rationale, is why would you believe a guy that tells you that
> >swallowing a few vitamin pills and doing works outs 'til you have
> >buns-o'-steel makes you invulnerable to the basic laws of gasses and
> >physiology?<<<
> >
> >No the fundamental issue is who will be the next to die on an electronic
> >rebreather!
> >
> >Ray LaTulippe
> >

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