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Dr. H, here's an interesting point:

Since you are apparently relatively new to the cavers list and
techdiver, and after reading your posts and following your on-going
exchange with kirvine and Bill Mee, I for one would like to know
something of your diving qualifications.

We are all generally familiar with those of WKPP and, whether one likes
the way posts are presented or not, we know that the experiences and
skills are real.

I suspect your experience is somewhat of a mystery to most of the list
participants. To put the argument in the proper perspective would you
help us out a bit and tell us about some of your dives and experiences,
deco, and what ever else might qualify you as an expert in the area of
technical diving oc, scr, or ccr?

I guess you are an MD and I assume run an A.I.D.S clinic in L.A. and....

Thanks


pH wrote:
> 
> Ray -
> 
> This really isn't about electronics. You can believe they will kill you and
> I can believe that they usually will not. Forget the electronics for a
> moment - I can fly my machine manually. So now, tell me you don't believe
> in the Geo Tooth Fairy who will save you from deco with a handful of pills
> and a stiff workout. I think/know/math/reason that a higher pO2 short of
> toxicity is a better choice for deco. It's that simple.
> 
> pH
> 
> At 05:27 PM 8/3/98 -0400, RLatulip@ao*.co* wrote:
> >In a message dated 8/3/98, 4:41:30 PM, heseltine@ea*.ne* writes:
> >
> ><<Ray - This is hogwash and you know it! Sooner or later we will ALL
die and
> >so will our machinery. Debating the relative merits of MTBF of your air
> >computer (whose battery you probably didn't check before the dive), an
> >SC-RB and OC is not the point. They ALL fail, occasionally. But, you are
> >changing the subject.
> >>>
> >
> >Give me a %^$# break all failures had nothing to do with the battery
> rather it
> >started telling me I had twice the gas I had when I started and for your
> >information it was not an air computer and it was supposed to monitor my
> >breathing rate as well which it did like shit. The point is not that it is a
> >computer but that it is a device that contains electronics you moron. And
> >secondly if they all fail occasionally all the better to not be depending on
> >them to maintain your PO2.  I would rather die old and dreaming about the
> >dives I used to do than young and leaving behind a widow.
> >
> >Electronics in a circuit are only as good as the components the vendor sends
> >you and if you think that their quality control is %100 all the time then you
> >are living in a fantasy world.  Did you sit there and run an oscilloscope on
> >every component to ensure that it met the specifications that it was
> supposed.
> >
> >Having tested power supplies for I.B.M. for several years and having had to
> >analyze the fallout I still will not bet my life on an electronic circuit.
> >
> >>>>The fundamental issue, which Geo refuses to address with any logic or
> >scientific rationale, is why would you believe a guy that tells you that
> >swallowing a few vitamin pills and doing works outs 'til you have
> >buns-o'-steel makes you invulnerable to the basic laws of gasses and
> >physiology?<<<
> >
> >No the fundamental issue is who will be the next to die on an electronic
> >rebreather!
> >
> >Ray LaTulippe
> >
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