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Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 18:21:34 -0400
From: "Katherine V. Irvine" <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
Organization: DIR
To: Jess Armantrout <armantrout@wo*.at*.ne*>
CC: pH <heseltine@ea*.ne*>, cavers@ca*.co*, techdiver@aquanaut.com,
     rebreather@nw*.co*, Kevin Juergensen
Subject: Re: better deco?
Jess, the tyranny of ignorance is amazing. Like you said.......


Jess Armantrout wrote:
> 
> Pete,
> I really don't care who is the better writer or speller, but your argument
> that you can obtain better offgasing is interesting, and easily validated.
> All you have to do is go out and do 6 hours underwater at 285' then deco on
> your machine of choice.  Please report your findings asap.
> 
> Jess
> 
> ----------
> > From: pH <heseltine@ea*.ne*>
> > To: kirvine@sa*.ne*
> > Cc: cavers@ca*.co*; techdiver@aquanaut.com; rebreather@nw*.co*;
> Kevin Juergensen <heyydude@pi*.co*>
> > Subject: Re: Death was a Bigot
> > Date: Monday, August 03, 1998 12:35 AM
> >
> >
> > At 11:09 AM 8/2/98 -0700, pH wrote to G4
> >
> > >I am quite willing to debate with you the relative merits of variable
> FO2
> > rebreathers >and how they might or might not be used in caves.
> >
> > At 06:57 PM 8/2/98 -0400, Katherine V. Irvine's evil twin wrote:
> > >Pete - bullshit - you can not hold the ppo2 up on the exposures we do,
> > >and in fact, "DOCTOR" Heseltine....
> > >the alternating of the vaso contriction/dilation of the switching is far
> > more improtant >to the deco than trying to hold the ppo2 up. The damage
> > done to the lungs and the
> > >shutdown and LOSS of deco advantage on high ppo2's as teh body fights it
> > >has been well demonstrated for what we do ( and for much less
> > >provocative exposures than what we do).
> > >I can also tell you that keeping the oxygen window WIDER at every ppo2
> is far
> > >more important than trying to do so by just holding the ppo2 up, YOU
> > >really shoulde know this being a doctor, Pete, and quite frankly, I am
> > >amazed that you do not.
> 
> then more pH rambling
> 
> > The idea that you can offgas nitrogen by being able to take on more O2 is
> > neither new nor unique to cavers. What is truly incredible is that you
> seem
> > to think you are immune from the universal gas law. To tell me that with
> a
> > couple of gas switches from 300' to 30' you can obtain the same
> offgassing
> > advantage as breathing a fixed pO2 mixed on the fly, because you are in
> > "good shape" is like claiming you wouldn't fart if I put you in a vacuum.
> > You'd blow your ass wide open, just as you are doin' with your mouth
> right
> > now!
> >
> > Ya gotta play 'em or lay 'em. We can outwrite AND OUTSPELL you on every
> > post.


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