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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 18:10:14 +0200
From: Claus Lisberg <clisberg@po*.te*.dk*>
To: dlv <dlv@ga*.ne*>
CC: Jammer Six <jammer@oz*.ne*>, techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: PA Quarry Near Drowning - Deep Air the culprit???


dlv wrote:

> Jammer,
> Claus could probably get Brett Gilliam to debate with him during a pot
> smoking session, so if the important thing for Claus is debating, Brett is
> his man.

*laughs*

Well, not *that* important.

> But if he wants to learn tech or cave diving the "right" way, he needs to
> realize there is no debating, only "learning".  Nobody at the top will
> "debate" with an uneductated novice---its a ridiculous concept.

Agree. The terminology I used was inappropriate. What I meant was that issues
such as why bondage wings are no good can easily be explained by logic,
without resorting to blind faith or "because I say they suck, ok?". Several
times I've seen request for more thinking divers, instead of the usual
DivaDroids tech wannabe.

I'm a small plankton swimming in seas with whale sharks - no way I'm going to
pick a fight. Nor do I in any way want to claim what I am not - I'm just a
newbie who wants to do things *the right way*. However, I'd like answers such
as *why* things are done in this or that way, or why this bondage wing sucks,
because there will *inevitably* be fellow divers that will ask me this. I'd
like to be able to provide a clear answer.

Playing the devil's advocate is for me an attempt to get inside the head of
the opposing part, nothing else. Debunking what junk they've come up with will
be so much easier if one has thought about all the pro's and con's.

> Questions are OK, but there is a huge difference between a well meaning
> question, and debating.

Absolutely. I'm not sure I want to blame it on English being my third
language, but as I said earlier, debating (should have been discussing, eh?)
for the sake of clarification seems perfectly in order to me.

There is absolutely no way in Frag I'm going to start arguing about what I
have little or no experience or knowledge about, at least when it comes to
serious diving.

I'm going back to lurk mode again; don't wanna attract that big ol' whaleshark
;).

> Regards,
> Dan

Respectfully
--
Claus Lisberg,
Founder of PSWEH (Poor Students With Expensive Hobbies)
Nirfur prophet #1, a.a atheist #1116
"A casual stroll through an asylum will show that faith proves nothing." - F.
Nietzsche


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