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From: "dlv" <dlv@ga*.ne*>
To: "Jammer Six" <jammer@oz*.ne*>, "techdiver" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Cc: <clisberg@po*.te*.dk*>
Subject: Re: PA Quarry Near Drowning - Deep Air the culprit???
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 11:31:01 -0400

Jammer,
Claus could probably get Brett Gilliam to debate with him during a pot
smoking session, so if the important thing for Claus is debating, Brett is
his man.
But if he wants to learn tech or cave diving the "right" way, he needs to
realize there is no debating, only "learning".  Nobody at the top will
"debate" with an uneductated novice---its a ridiculous concept.
Questions are OK, but there is a huge difference between a well meaning
question, and debating.
Regards,
Dan


-----Original Message-----
From: Jammer Six <jammer@oz*.ne*>
To: techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Date: Wednesday, July 22, 1998 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: PA Quarry Near Drowning - Deep Air the culprit???


>On 7/21/98 19:40, Claus Lisberg, clisberg@po*.te*.dk* posted:
>
>>Ad hominems, while amusing, serve little purpose in a serious
>>debate.
>
>This is your mistake.
>
>No one here is debating anything.
>
>Mike claims he wants to learn, fine. Anyone who wants to learn, can.
>
>But no one is going to debate anything with you, and that's the mistake
>you, along with Mike, and several thousand apprentices make every day.
>
>If you want to learn it, great, they'll teach you. But if you want to
>debate, you apparently haven't decided whether or not you want to learn
>it yet, so you need to go decide that.
>
>Learning takes place once you've decided that you want to learn what's
>here, not during the process of deciding, or during the process of
>choosing a teacher.
>
>
>"C'mon, you sons of bitches, you want to live forever?"
>     -First Sergeant Dan Daley
>"Who wants to live forever?"
>     -Freddie Mercury
>"I swear, I'm going to live forever"
>     -Jon Bon Jovi
>
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