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Mike, >>To put it another way... it'll be a cold day in hell when you >> find me in a course doing something magnitudes beyond my ability. >> I'm young, I have the time, I'll do it slowly.... increment by >> increment. How will you know that this hypothetical course was beyond your understanding or capability? Presumably, we can all progress to our personal limits. We have to in order to find out what those limits are, safe diving, JT -- John Taylor, Marketing and Trading Systems, IT Development Credit Suisse Financial Products (Hong Kong) Ltd, 13F, Tower 3, Exchange Square, Central, Hong Kong Office: +852 2101 6927, Fax: +852 2101 7698, Mobile: +852 9031 6395, email: john.taylor@cs*.co*.uk* > -----Original Message----- > From: zimmmt@au*.al*.co* [SMTP:zimmmt@au*.al*.co*] > Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 1998 11:45 AM > To: Taylor, John > Cc: zimmmt@au*.al*.co*; techdiver@aquanaut.com > Subject: Re: student responsibility > > > > > Mike, > > > > Marie Curie died of aplastic anaemia due to playing with radium. > Jacques > > Cousteau nearly died (twice) diving with pure O2. These were not > > "blithering helpless idiot(s)". Had someone been around with greater > > knowledge of the safety implications of these unfortunate acts, > would > > you think it wise to pass on the info? > > These students are not discovering the moon, nor radiation, nor > hoseless regulators :-) They are progressing along the next step > in diving education. The corner is not blind, what lies around > the corner is not kept secret. > > A student need not be mindless to be a student, I am simply > saying it is important to keep that in mind. A student should > not be expected NOT to think... rather a student should be > expected to do no less... to think... to question... to > challenge. > > There is a student and an instructor involved.... BOTH have > a responsibility in the arrangement. > > To put it another way... it'll be a cold day in hell when you > find me in a course doing something magnitudes beyond my ability. > I'm young, I have the time, I'll do it slowly.... increment by > increment. > > Sounds like you won't be my instructor though... you don't expect > enough of me as a student. I'd rather work with someone who has > more respect (which carries with it expectations) for their > trainee. > > If you think I am trying to absolve the instructor you are very very > wrong, and you need to back up, take a breath and think. Life isn't > just black and white... and just because one person may have been > totally wrong does not make the other person totally un-wrong. > > I;m just saying in the process of lynching the instructor, let's > not forget that we can ALSO help avert these incidents by > encouraging the students to make themselves very aware. > The goal is the same isn't it? Helping prevent these incidents. > Informed students could put quite a scare into bad instructors. > Just as per economic theory... informed consumers tend not to > choose poor quality goods (instruction). In the end that > could be quite more effective than any policing by the > agencies that you could dream up. > > Or is the goal the lynch party, in which case yeah, I can see > this type of post might be messing things up. > > I dunno, you tell me. Hell I'm just saying the student has more > than a nothing role in the process. > > Mike -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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