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Subject: Stuperwings
Author: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*> at Internet
Date: 3/12/98 9:15 AM
>Look, you knuckleheads who defend your stuperwings to the death, nobody
>really cares what kind of useless equipment you guys care to torture
>yourselves with.
You are still trying to get on my good side. But not my type, I prefer
Catholic girls.
>But just as sure as the sun rising in the east, once every couple of
>months or so you guys start feeling insecure about your dumb purchase
>and have to do a "what do you all think about stuperwings" post.
Never felt insecure about them.
>I wonder why this is? I mean if stuperwings are Gods Gift to Technical
>Diving, they should stand on their own merits. But, no, you stuperwing
>bondage dudes occationally look at your wild, convoluted mass of hoses,
>tubeing, valves and other crap and start to have a creeping doubt that
>maybe, just maybe, you got taked to the cleaners at the local dive
>shop.
No, did not get taken to the cleaners.
>Well, as my Dad is fond of saying, "you pays yer money and you makes
>yer choice". So you bondage morons made your choice now shut the hell
>up. Standard wings are one of those rare inventions which are perfect
>in their execution. They cannot be improved upon beyond construction
>details. To double them up and wrap them in tubing took a perfectly
>good product and fucked it all up.
I did not start this conversation. Only my 2 cents. Your dad is a
smart man. My choice, agreed. And
>Stupid purchases like stuperwings are not always quantifiable in terms of
>life or death. The diving experience is greatly enhanced by the fact that
>you don't have to fuck with a 2nd hose and inflator, you don't have to
>struggle to keep your balance and you don't have to burn as much air when
>you use standard wings.
I consider dry suits added task loading. I don't have any problems with
balance or trim. That 2nd hose is clipped out of the way and in easy
reach at all times. Dove<sp> a set of DiveRite Original wings, loved
them, perhaps I will use them when diving dry. However; not getting rid
of Superwings.
>I experience this every stinking dive since I got rid of mine. If you
>morons can't get that through your thick, dualbladder encased skulls,
>fine, I don't give a shit. Just dive your stuperwings and quit whining
>about them.
I don't ever think you have heard me whining. And yes, I do have a thick
skull, I have to be convinced, not beaten into submission. You will only
find my skull getting thicker when you start pounding on it.
Robert Lockard
Jim
On 3/11/98 10:54 PM Thomas A. Easop wrote:
>Jim Cobb wrote:
>
>> >When was the last time you orally inflated anything on a tech dive???
>>
>> What kind of stupid question is that? You are saying that all manual
>> inflators should be removed from all BCs becauses YOU have never used
>> one? Say, you don't have a bucket on your head, do you?
>
>No bucket here, in fact, I learned to dive a long time ago, when there
>were no
>autoinflators. Everything was manual, I did plenty of manual inflation, and
>auto inflators were considered uneeded and 'tekkie'. Today they are SOP.
>And I
>didn't say anyone had to do anything, or remove anything. I just asked a
>pretty
>simple and intelligent question. You said "in my experience" so I asked
>for you
>to explain your experience. But I guess the 'experience' you are refering
>to is
>your conjecture.
>
>> >I would like to hear of your personal CF experience where the 2nd inflator
>> >contributed to the task load.
>>
>> OK, it was a dark and story night... Listen, numbnuts, remember that
>> first time you tried to take off your girlfriends bra (assuming you're
>> not a homo), didn't it piss you off when you discovered that there was
>> not 1, not 2, but 3 or even more clips back there? Why were there so many
>> clips, because 1 could not do the job? No, because the No.1 fear of
>> adolescent girls is that a single clip might fail and the goodies will
>> fall out for every to see. So the bra manufacturers outdid themselves by
>> adding multiple clips to satisfy the "1 clip theory" girlish paranoia.
>
>My first girlfriend did not have any of this paranoia, had the front clip
>type
>bra, and took it off when I politely asked her to so I never did have to
>struggle like your 'experience'.
>
>> Thusly, OMS stuper bondage wings are the training bra of the Tech diver
>> industry. Easop, one day you too will graduate to a "1 clip" once you
>> overcome your adolescent, irrational fear of the unknown.
>
>This irrational fear of the unkown is foriegn to me. I have seen with my own
>eyes inflators and bladders fail on dives. And I have never had the bungees
>force air out of my wings or been entangled by my backup inflator even
>when it
>was not elegantly configured out of the way. Also I have used my drysuit as
>backup BC on tech dives and I do not trust the neck seal, and it is very
>uncomfortable, my rate minute volume went way up.
>
>Most of all, I have only heard conjecture about how bondage double bladder
>wings are dangerous. No one has posted substantiated accounts of them causing
>incidents or deaths, which brings us back to the origianl posts. Trusting the
>cave diving elite in Florida with their propensity for exageration and making
>unsubstantiated claims is impossible. Put up or shut up. Where are the
>accounts
>of these wings causing deaths?
>
>Tom
>
>
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