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From: <Robert.Lockard@nc*.na*.mi*>
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:29:15 -0500
Subject: Re[2]: OMS wings problems
To: "Guy Wittig" <Guy.Wittig@Au*.Su*.CO*>, Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>
Cc: "Tech Diver" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
     Jim,
     
     At the risk of being flamed...
     
     1. Diving with a dry suit is a pain in the ass.  I will use them when 
     the water is cold, or long deco.
     
     2. I do not consider my dry suit a redundant means of buoyancy.
     
     3. Dry suit inflation and buoyancy control is added task loading I 
     don't need when Charlie comes a calling.  I will revert to best 
     learned skills, namely BC inflator.
     
     4. I have been using TransPac and Super Wings for a long time now, and 
     all my tech dives are conducted with this setup.  The extra inflator 
     hose is not in the way it is clipped off.  There is no additional task 
     loading with this setup.  
     
     5.  When CF happens, deal with it.  We know from experience, that 
     problems will compound in a CF, so it is better to have something you 
     trust, know how to use left hand right hand, upside down or sideways, 
     blind folded and both hands tied behind your back.  This is "PERSONAL 
     PREFERENCE" for me ;-)  It works, and when the shit hits the fan, I 
     can get the bra off the Catholic Girl.  
     
     Robert Lockard
     
     "When given the choice between two evils, I take the one I have not 
     tried."
     May West
     
     


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Subject: Re: OMS wings problems
Author:  Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*> at Internet
Date:    3/12/98 9:33 AM


But why have your virtue protected all at the last line of defense, i.e. 
the bra? A true catholic girl will have a jacket over a sweater over a 
button-down vest over a French sheer with the tiny buttons on top of a 
slip. Multiple defenses which must be defeated to have access to the 
goodies, much better than a redundant clip, I can tell you. (It took me 
years to figure out that what you have to do is an "island hopping" kind 
of offense, namely bypass the heavy defenses and head straight for the 
motherland, surprisingly protected by only a panty.)
     
To carry this analogy over to diving, use the right gear, i.e. drysuit, 
buoyant stages, liftbag rather than some convoluted "last defence".
     
  Jim
     
On 3/11/98 5:42 PM Guy Wittig wrote:
     
>Jim
>
>I think the point here is that if girl's needed their bra because their tits 
>would fall off if it came undone, then bras with a redundant clip would be a 
>safer option. 
>
>Sure, if there was a clip failure you could resort to a 'manual' method of 
>holding your tits on, but then the task loading of holding your tits all the 
>time, not to mention the loss of use of your hands, the increased breathing 
>rate and CO2 build up due to having your nipples continually stimulated, 
>would increase your chance of screwing up.
>
>So it is a trade off. Deal with the extra clip each time you want to remove 
>your bra - a small pain in the ass perhaps, but something you are accustomed 
>to do in known and controlled circumstances; and if shit happens - which is 
>unknown, unplanned and uncontrolled - know that you can rely on that second 
>pain in the ass clip to keep your tits safe whilst you deal with the 
>situation.
>
>Personally, I prefer no bra. But it depends how heavily loaded you are. 
>
>Guy
     
     
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