dan this prove absolutly nothing. i am sure that they have seen guys like this get bent & they might actually be fat out of shape guys. does that mean that ALL FAT PEOPLE have have poor crdiovascular rates & the ALL of them are out of shape & ALL of them WILL come up screaming from a dive. you must start to realise how narrowminded your arguments on this are getting. i have seen fat, skinny, inbeteweenies, men & women get bent on dives that you would think were non dives & conversly i have seen the oposite occur on deep tech dives. the point here is dan you have no point other than to blow your own horn on how great is your conditioning & that means that everyone else should FIT into your mold. because of course you must be perfect. well dan sorry to tell you this but we live in an imperfect world & for all of your models of divers i can show you the oposite numebers of divers that dove successfully. as far as the chest beating part of your post that you were able to do a _____ dive for X min & the do Y dive & got out of the water in B min....... So what! i have seen guys dive to 180 for 30 twice in a day & come up when the "air ran oiut so it was time to come up" . eventually all of them got bent, not that day but on other days. in those days they were only diving air now we use other gasses to assist us in avoiding the bends & they also if you push it will get you out of the water much sooner. so your example only shows me that you are interested in trying to impress us more than you are tring to make a point. remember i am not against your concept but i just can't agree with all of your conclusion. BTW i think you should take Capt Zero up on the challange - hell you will get a chance to dive some really great wrecks at the same time. hank In a message dated 98-03-06 11:33:40 EST, you write: << Subj: Re: Why Obesity in deep tech diving is a contraindication---gas exchange, revi Date: 98-03-06 11:33:40 EST From: dlv@ga*.ne* (Dan Volker) To: CAPTZEROOO@ao*.co* (CAPTZEROOO), tae@pe*.ne* CC: techdiver@aquanaut.com, TOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne*, brownies@ne*.ne*, wwm@sa*.ne*, GIRVINE@bl*.ne* >Dan > >Where do you come up with these ridiculus figures ?? > >A fat guy needing 4-5 hours of deco vrs a fit guy needing 1 !!! If this was >anywhere near true All fat divers would be bent on every decompression dive. >Fat takes up & releases inert gasses slower true !! but 5 times the deco for >the fat guy is wayyyyy off base. You need to talk to the WKPP guys about the human pretzels they see----typically very fat guys with poor aerobic base. The fat guys will do twice the deco the WKPP guys do, and be sceaming in pain after their dive. Ask Bill Mee or George. On their last revovery attempt dive here, George, Bill, and Robert did 250 for about 24 minuts, and did deco for 45 minutes. And this was a working dive. The obese, sedentary divers would NOT be able to do this profile without major pretzelling------and then after this dive, we all went to dive the hole in the Wall, a cave dive on a ledge---ave depth about 140, for like 30 minutes. We did about 20 minutes of deco and we were out. Regards, Dan -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: <owner-techdiver@aquanaut.com> Received: from relay07.mail.aol.com (relay07.mail.aol.com [172.31.109.7]) by air18.mail.aol.com (v40.7) with SMTP; Fri, 06 Mar 1998 11:33:40 -0500 Received: from bighorn.terra.net (bighorn.terra.net [199.103.128.2]) by relay07.mail.aol.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id LAA00943; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 11:33:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (mail@lo*) by bighorn.terra.net (8.8.6/jr3.9) for id KAA14977; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:42:04 -0500 Precedence: bulk Errors-To: owner-techdiver@aquanaut.com Received: from bighorn.terra.net (root@lo*) by bighorn.terra.net (8.8.6/jr3.9) with EXEC for techdiver id KAA12139; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:01:25 -0500 Received: from chickasaw.gate.net (root@ch*.ga*.ne* [198.206.134.26]) by bighorn.terra.net (8.8.6/jr3.8) with ESMTP for <techdiver@aquanaut.com> id KAA12128; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:01:20 -0500 Received: from gate.net.gate.net (wpbfl3-25.gate.net [199.227.125.216]) by chickasaw.gate.net (8.8.6/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA69250; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:01:06 -0500 Message-Id: <199803061501.KAA69250@ch*.ga*.ne*> From: "Dan Volker" <dlv@ga*.ne*> To: "CAPTZEROOO" <CAPTZEROOO@ao*.co*>, <tae@pe*.ne*> Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>, <TOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne*>, <brownies@ne*.ne*>, <wwm@sa*.ne*>, <GIRVINE@bl*.ne*> Subject: Re: Why Obesity in deep tech diving is a contraindication---gas exchange, revi Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:06:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1008.3 X-MimeOle: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE Engine V4.71.1008.3 >> -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. 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