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HUH???? Do you think I'm Brett Gilliam the TDI demon, or Roger the cave student of Joe Odom living in Huntsville AL. Maybe I'm Fred Flintstone, or better yet, George Irvine incognito. This is hilarious. You have made my day. Thanks for the response. I live in Birmingham. In fact, some on the list have actually called me. I probably will be diving with some of them very soon. Let's straighten this out before we continue, shall we? Look in the Aquanaut archives for my address and phone number. Call me. You can address your wonderful accusations to me directly, if you like. Ah heck, here it is anyway 1-800-610-2522 ext 109 Just think, maybe Brett will answer the phone. To find out more about me, please refer to one of my previous posts today. Thanks, Roger >From bobmajor@ju*.co* Thu Feb 5 14:01:23 1998 >Received: (from bobmajor@ju*.co*) > by x13.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id QrD01917; Thu, 05 Feb 1998 16:13:09 EST >To: cavers@ww*.ge*.co* >Cc: rogersteele@ho*.co* >Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 16:10:30 -0500 >Subject: Re: Fraudulent Posts >Message-ID: <19980205.161031.8726.0.bobmajor@ju*.co*> >X-Mailer: Juno 1.38 >X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,4-5,9-13,20-21,25-26,31-42,44-47,49-145 >From: bobmajor@ju*.co* (Robert W Major) > >Dear Bret "Roger Steele" Gilliam, > >Who do you think you're fooling? Cut the baloney Gilliam. You started >this thread trying to suck someone into making an inaccurate statement >about .. > >"the statistical corellation (sic) between Deep Air Deaths and TDI >certified divers in 1996 and 1997"�..(your own lawyerly words). Well why >don't we rephrase the questions just a little, but remove your pet peeve >"Deep Air" from the sentence. How's this sound? > >"I would like to know the statistical correlation between Deaths >and TDI certified divers in 1996 and 1997? " > >The answer to the above questions is: Five out of 8 technical diving >fatalities were TDI during 1997. Pretty impressive statistics, heh? >The folks at Crest toothpaste would be proud to have numbers like these. >Please explain this away for all of us. If you're a little forgetful (I >know how meaningful the lives of the deceased are to a caring sensitive >person such as yourself) perhaps we can list the names for you. Maybe >this will help your memory. > >While you're at it we would love to hear about why Bret Gilliam thinks >that deep air diving is so great. It was, after all, the subject of >deep air that got you started up in the first place and now that you have >everyone's attention please tell us about deep air's intangible benefits. > >It obviously is just a coincidence that you have the same name as Joe >Odom's student, who happens to be new to cave diving and who lives in the >same town as Odom. What basis do you as a student have for discussing >any of this. Amazingly, you sound just like Gilliam. Please do tell us >all about this coincidence. > > >Regards, > > >Robert Major > >>DI plant??? Hardly. Anyone reading that article and this list without >>any other information would have drawn the same conclusion. People on >>he list use profanity and call each other morons, as you have stated >>below. People tend to base their conclusions on the available >>documentation. I am being objectve. You need to be objective towards me > >>and not jump to the conclusion that I am a TDI plant. This is >>laughable. From your snip of my previous post, all that you can >>conclude about my position is that I think Brett and George are >>attacking each other through different mediums. One has used profanity, > >>the other has not. Deal with it. That statement does not mean that "I >>love deep air, I hate the WKPP, TDI is awesome etc..." In response to >>your other claims, refer to my e-mail to Jesse. > >>Roger > >>From ejsadler@pa*.ne* Thu Feb 5 08:59:52 1998 >>Received: from [209.94.1.9] (a01-09.inetnow.net [209.94.1.9]) by >deep-thoughts.com (8.8.5) id JAA19654; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 09:59:39 -0700 >(MST) >>Message-Id: <v03110708b100428da65d@[209.94.1.9]> >>In-Reply-To: <19980205140245.23700.qmail@ho*.co*> >>Mime-Version: 1.0 >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 23:43:26 -0500 >>To: "roger steele" <rogersteele@ho*.co*> >>From: "E.J. Sadler" <ejsadler@Pa*.ne*> >>Subject: Re: BULLSHIT magazine >>Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com >> >>>For myself, I really do not see the difference >>>between what Gilliam printed in his magazine and what George has >posted >>>on this list, other than the fact that Gilliam did not print >profanity. >> >> >>Well, I personally am glad to finally see where you actually stand. >During >>the last round about contributory deaths, I actually thought you may >have >>been someone looking at things objectively. >> >>Thank you for clarifying my erroneous position. >> >>If you actually believed that there is no difference between >communicating >>opinions through a channel that the individual in question has direct >>editorial control, and an open forum in which anybody can contribute, I >>would have to conclude that you are a moron. >> >>Fortunately for you, it is obvious now that you are some kind of >>TDI/Gilliam PR plant, and not a moron. >> >>But please, don't assume that we are. >> >>E.J. >> >> >> >> >>>I've read this magazine. Some of the articles in the past have been >>>informative. Certainly, it ranks higher than "Skin Diver". I think >the >>>problem that most people have with the magazine on this list is that >>>Brett Gilliam decided to take George on in the print media, instead of >>>the internet. I have not read any critiques about the content of the >>>magazine itself, other than the last issue being too basic for >advanced >>>divers. (The magazine had several articles about decompression >>>sickness. Of course, it could be argued that these articles were >aimed >>>at new "tech" divers.") For myself, I really do not see the >difference >>>between what Gilliam printed in his magazine and what George has >posted >>>on this list, other than the fact that Gilliam did not print >profanity. >>> Over the past several days I have read many posts from individuals >>>justifying the tactics of personal attacks over the internet. In >>>essence, most of these posts state that if you can't take the heat, >then >>>stop crying about it and get off the list. If people truly believe in >>>this statement, then they should apply it evenly. From the statement >>>below, it would seem that Brett Gilliam is merely doing the same thing >>>that is done on this list daily. If you cannot take the heat, stop >>>crying about it in your posts. >>> >> >> >> >>______________________________ >> >>E.J. Sadler / Particle Studios >>ejsadler@pa*.ne* >>800.704.3900 >>http://particles.net >>______________________________ >> >> >> > > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > >_____________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com >Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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