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Fair enough. I have dove in several quarries in the southeast, focusing on one in Alabama, since I am from Birmingham. My favorite quarry is Blue Water Park, in Pelham, AL. It is an excellent training facility due to its various depths (20ft to 150ft) and visibility. What I mean by visiblity is that it is bad most of the time. (Anywhere from 1ft to 20 ft.) It is an excellent place to pratice lift bag ascents, due to the milky nature of the visibility and the depth. For instance, doing a lift bag ascent in the ocean with high visibility is easy after accomplishing this several times in cold, milky water. I normally ascend form 140ft in 45degree water and practice with the lift bag by releasing it 20 to 10 ft below my first deco stop. I also find it hard to manipulate the reel and bag due to the cold. From about 130ft to 30 ft you have no reference point. Bouancy is difficult in these conditions when you are manipulating the lift bag and reel. I only do no-decompression dives or slight decompression dives in the quarry. As far as lakes are concerned, I normally due shallow night dives in the summer in which I spear catfish, or make the attempt anyway. Low viz is normal in Smith lake, which is a damed lake in north-central Alabama. I have done some deep dives here, but the water is around 36-38 degrees at 100ft. Very cold. The lake reaches depths exceding 300ft in places. Also, I have dove in several lakes in Arkansas, Beaver lake to name one of them. Lets turn to caves. Due to my proximity to North Florida, I have been in a few of the caves. (Vortex, Morrison, Cyprus, Jackson Blue, Ginnie, Peacocke, Orange Grove, Devil's Den, Blue Grotto.) I think wrecks are next on the list. I've dove on many of the standard wrecks off Panama City and Destin. (Black Bart, Empire Mica, etc. . . ) Also, I have dove on the Eagle and the Duane in the Keys. Also, I have done some deep diving in the northern gulf on the Megadan(200 to the deck, 220 to the sand), etc. . . I made one attempt to the Ozark last September, but the weather turned us back. The crow's nest on this wreck is at about 220 with the deck at 300. (Sand 350) This is by far the best tech wreck in the northern gulf. Visibility on all of these wrecks can be low close to the bottom. It seems that when the last bad hurricane came through, it mucked up the bottom. Normally, 20-30ft from the bottom you will hit a cloudy layer that limits vis on the actual wreck. All of these dives were decompression dives. Of course, I have been reef diving. For example, I have been to the Bahamas, Keys and Belize. I have been in the Blue Hole to about 160ft. I have been diving for several years. I enjoy it. I like to dive in various conditions and places. I do not focus on one form of diving only. Jim, hopefully this summary will ease your mind. I just hope you do not demand this of anyone else. I feel like I'm writing a diving diary. All right, tell me about yourself. What type of diving do you do? Cave, wreck, etc. . . We may have alot of common interests. Roger ps. I dive with double steel 104's with a backplate and harness in the cave and wreck environment. I use a high pressure steel 100 when I dive a single cylinder. Sometimes i will use an h-valve with 300 bar din valves in this configuration, based on the particular application. If I am doing a simple reef dive, I will use a yoke regulator with an aluminum 80. I do not loop the long hose around my body on dives such as these. I see no need to carry a 7 ft hose on simple nodecompression reef dive. I like simplicity and do not like to carry what I do not need. Ido, of course, use this hose configuration in the wreck and cave environment. >From cobber@ci*.co* Thu Feb 5 10:31:02 1998 >Received: from 206.246.204.135 by cisatlantic.com > with SMTP (QuickMail Pro Server for MacOS 1.0.2); 05 FEB 98 13:25:45 UT >X-Sender: cobber@ma*.ci*.co* >Message-Id: <v04003a00b0ffb1019597@[206.246.204.135]> >In-Reply-To: <19980205165304.8672.qmail@ho*.co*> >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 13:25:42 -0500 >To: "roger steele" <rogersteele@ho*.co*> >From: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*> >Subject: Re: Fraudulent posts > >Oh, I am very calm, roger. And I must defer to your experience, as I am but >a mere Virginia Beach wreck diver. I don't think it is how much you know, >rather how willing or able you are to "spread the wealth" so to speak. >There are plenty of people who like to come on this list and tell us about >all it's problems, but very few who are willing to pass on information of >any kind. > >In a previous post I asked you some questions about where you dive, who you >dive with and so on. The most you will reveal is "Caves, wrecks, lakes, >quarries, ocean dives etc. . ." This information alone seems to indicate >that you have a wealth of knowledge to pass on. What quarries do you dive >at? which is your favorite and why? I have never dove in a quarry, so don't >know what it's like. I have been in a lake once, and that was one time too >many. What lakes have you been in? > >So help us out, roger. While my posts might "ooze with authority," your >posts echo with emptyness, devoid of usable information but at the same >time are packed with a know-it-all, sanctimounious implied superiority. >Kind of like half the articles in that last DeepTek. > > Jim > > >>Calm down Jim. I'm not your enemy. Based on our last conversation I >>don't think you really want to engage me in rational argumentation. On >>the other hand, maybe you do. However, let me respond to your post.I >>would have loved to have gone to DEMA, but unfortunatley it was too far >>away and I could not afford taking off from work. Probably several >>people on the list had the same problem. I'm sure I could have learned >>something from the show. As far as expounding on information and >>techniques, I must confess that my knowledge is slight. You, on the >>other hand, have much to teach me. Let me speak plain: I make no >>claims about my knowledge or abilities in matters related to diving. On >>the other hand, I am a diver with some experience in various >>environments (Caves, wrecks, lakes, quarries, ocean dives etc. . .)Do I >>consider myself to be an advanced tech diver? No. Do I consider myself >>to be a novice? No. You seem to make the opposite claim. Your posts >>generally ooze with the authority of one who has learned and experienced >>much and therefore have much to teach. So, I must defer to this >>authority and come to you as a student. Teach me. >> > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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