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Roger- Why the constant drumbeat on the "profanity"? Both the Techdiver and Caver list are private lists. You might have a case with a usegroup or some other public bulletin board of some sort. Lists are called "private" because you have to apply to join them and they are under no onus at all insofar as language or other points which are apparently bothersome to you. Do you understand the difference between "public" and "private"? As an example. Let's say you were my neighbor and you enjoyed buggering your, uh, let's say Great Dane. Now you can do this all you want in the privacy of your own home. And if you invite me into your home and you get a sudden urge, at worse all I could do is leave. But as your neighbor I can do nothing at all about it (short of publishing a magazine and dedicating it to denigrating you). Now if you started to bugger your Great Dane your front lawn, all sorts of laws of PUBLIC decency would be broken and I could call the cops. Is this clear now? >TDI plant??? Hardly. Anyone reading that article and this list without >any other information would have drawn the same conclusion. People on >the list use profanity and call each other morons, as you have stated >below. People tend to base their conclusions on the available >documentation. I am being objectve. You need to be objective towards me >and not jump to the conclusion that I am a TDI plant. This is >laughable. From your snip of my previous post, all that you can >conclude about my position is that I think Brett and George are >attacking each other through different mediums. One has used profanity, >the other has not. Deal with it. That statement does not mean that "I >love deep air, I hate the WKPP, TDI is awesome etc..." In response to >your other claims, refer to my e-mail to Jesse. > >Roger > >>From ejsadler@pa*.ne* Thu Feb 5 08:59:52 1998 >>Received: from [209.94.1.9] (a01-09.inetnow.net [209.94.1.9]) by >deep-thoughts.com (8.8.5) id JAA19654; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 09:59:39 -0700 >(MST) >>Message-Id: <v03110708b100428da65d@[209.94.1.9]> >>In-Reply-To: <19980205140245.23700.qmail@ho*.co*> >>Mime-Version: 1.0 >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 23:43:26 -0500 >>To: "roger steele" <rogersteele@ho*.co*> >>From: "E.J. Sadler" <ejsadler@Pa*.ne*> >>Subject: Re: BULLSHIT magazine >>Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com >> >>>For myself, I really do not see the difference >>>between what Gilliam printed in his magazine and what George has >posted >>>on this list, other than the fact that Gilliam did not print >profanity. >> >> >>Well, I personally am glad to finally see where you actually stand. >During >>the last round about contributory deaths, I actually thought you may >have >>been someone looking at things objectively. >> >>Thank you for clarifying my erroneous position. >> >>If you actually believed that there is no difference between >communicating >>opinions through a channel that the individual in question has direct >>editorial control, and an open forum in which anybody can contribute, I >>would have to conclude that you are a moron. >> >>Fortunately for you, it is obvious now that you are some kind of >>TDI/Gilliam PR plant, and not a moron. >> >>But please, don't assume that we are. >> >>E.J. >> >> >> >> >>>I've read this magazine. Some of the articles in the past have been >>>informative. Certainly, it ranks higher than "Skin Diver". I think >the >>>problem that most people have with the magazine on this list is that >>>Brett Gilliam decided to take George on in the print media, instead of >>>the internet. I have not read any critiques about the content of the >>>magazine itself, other than the last issue being too basic for >advanced >>>divers. (The magazine had several articles about decompression >>>sickness. Of course, it could be argued that these articles were >aimed >>>at new "tech" divers.") For myself, I really do not see the >difference >>>between what Gilliam printed in his magazine and what George has >posted >>>on this list, other than the fact that Gilliam did not print >profanity. >>> Over the past several days I have read many posts from individuals >>>justifying the tactics of personal attacks over the internet. In >>>essence, most of these posts state that if you can't take the heat, >then >>>stop crying about it and get off the list. If people truly believe in >>>this statement, then they should apply it evenly. From the statement >>>below, it would seem that Brett Gilliam is merely doing the same thing >>>that is done on this list daily. If you cannot take the heat, stop >>>crying about it in your posts. >>> >> >> >> >>______________________________ >> >>E.J. Sadler / Particle Studios >>ejsadler@pa*.ne* >>800.704.3900 >>http://particles.net >>______________________________ >> >> >> > > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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