Jim, Dustin Clesi has seven sheep....... Drew Jim Cobb wrote: > Roger- > > Why the constant drumbeat on the "profanity"? Both the Techdiver and Caver > list are private lists. You might have a case with a usegroup or some other > public bulletin board of some sort. Lists are called "private" because you > have to apply to join them and they are under no onus at all insofar as > language or other points which are apparently bothersome to you. Do you > understand the difference between "public" and "private"? > > As an example. Let's say you were my neighbor and you enjoyed buggering > your, uh, let's say Great Dane. Now you can do this all you want in the > privacy of your own home. And if you invite me into your home and you get a > sudden urge, at worse all I could do is leave. But as your neighbor I can > do nothing at all about it (short of publishing a magazine and dedicating > it to denigrating you). > > Now if you started to bugger your Great Dane your front lawn, all sorts of > laws of PUBLIC decency would be broken and I could call the cops. > > Is this clear now? > > >TDI plant??? Hardly. Anyone reading that article and this list without > >any other information would have drawn the same conclusion. People on > >the list use profanity and call each other morons, as you have stated > >below. People tend to base their conclusions on the available > >documentation. I am being objectve. You need to be objective towards me > >and not jump to the conclusion that I am a TDI plant. This is > >laughable. From your snip of my previous post, all that you can > >conclude about my position is that I think Brett and George are > >attacking each other through different mediums. One has used profanity, > >the other has not. Deal with it. That statement does not mean that "I > >love deep air, I hate the WKPP, TDI is awesome etc..." In response to > >your other claims, refer to my e-mail to Jesse. > > > >Roger > > > >>From ejsadler@pa*.ne* Thu Feb 5 08:59:52 1998 > >>Received: from [209.94.1.9] (a01-09.inetnow.net [209.94.1.9]) by > >deep-thoughts.com (8.8.5) id JAA19654; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 09:59:39 -0700 > >(MST) > >>Message-Id: <v03110708b100428da65d@[209.94.1.9]> > >>In-Reply-To: <19980205140245.23700.qmail@ho*.co*> > >>Mime-Version: 1.0 > >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >>Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 23:43:26 -0500 > >>To: "roger steele" <rogersteele@ho*.co*> > >>From: "E.J. Sadler" <ejsadler@Pa*.ne*> > >>Subject: Re: BULLSHIT magazine > >>Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com > >> > >>>For myself, I really do not see the difference > >>>between what Gilliam printed in his magazine and what George has > >posted > >>>on this list, other than the fact that Gilliam did not print > >profanity. > >> > >> > >>Well, I personally am glad to finally see where you actually stand. > >During > >>the last round about contributory deaths, I actually thought you may > >have > >>been someone looking at things objectively. > >> > >>Thank you for clarifying my erroneous position. > >> > >>If you actually believed that there is no difference between > >communicating > >>opinions through a channel that the individual in question has direct > >>editorial control, and an open forum in which anybody can contribute, I > >>would have to conclude that you are a moron. > >> > >>Fortunately for you, it is obvious now that you are some kind of > >>TDI/Gilliam PR plant, and not a moron. > >> > >>But please, don't assume that we are. > >> > >>E.J. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>>I've read this magazine. Some of the articles in the past have been > >>>informative. Certainly, it ranks higher than "Skin Diver". I think > >the > >>>problem that most people have with the magazine on this list is that > >>>Brett Gilliam decided to take George on in the print media, instead of > >>>the internet. I have not read any critiques about the content of the > >>>magazine itself, other than the last issue being too basic for > >advanced > >>>divers. (The magazine had several articles about decompression > >>>sickness. Of course, it could be argued that these articles were > >aimed > >>>at new "tech" divers.") For myself, I really do not see the > >difference > >>>between what Gilliam printed in his magazine and what George has > >posted > >>>on this list, other than the fact that Gilliam did not print > >profanity. > >>> Over the past several days I have read many posts from individuals > >>>justifying the tactics of personal attacks over the internet. In > >>>essence, most of these posts state that if you can't take the heat, > >then > >>>stop crying about it and get off the list. If people truly believe in > >>>this statement, then they should apply it evenly. From the statement > >>>below, it would seem that Brett Gilliam is merely doing the same thing > >>>that is done on this list daily. If you cannot take the heat, stop > >>>crying about it in your posts. > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >>______________________________ > >> > >>E.J. Sadler / Particle Studios > >>ejsadler@pa*.ne* > >>800.704.3900 > >>http://particles.net > >>______________________________ > >> > >> > >> > > > > > >______________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. 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