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Roger, The huge, and rather obvious, difference in these two scenarios is that by Mr. Gilliam attacking Mr. Irvine in an international publication which he owns and controls, it makes it very difficult for Mr. Irvine to respond. The lists are open for all to take their best shot as well as their lumps. I am quite sure Mr. Irvine would welcome the oportunity to "discuss" these issues with Mr. Gilliam in ANY forum, (and I am equally sure a lot of people would pay good money to see it!) I am not so sure Mr. Gilliam wants any part of Mr. Irvine other than from behind the protection of his magazine. Trout ---------- > From: roger steele <rogersteele@ho*.co*> > To: techdiver@aquanaut.com > Subject: Re: BULLSHIT magazine > Date: Thursday, February 05, 1998 6:02 AM > > I've read this magazine. Some of the articles in the past have been > informative. Certainly, it ranks higher than "Skin Diver". I think the > problem that most people have with the magazine on this list is that > Brett Gilliam decided to take George on in the print media, instead of > the internet. I have not read any critiques about the content of the > magazine itself, other than the last issue being too basic for advanced > divers. (The magazine had several articles about decompression > sickness. Of course, it could be argued that these articles were aimed > at new "tech" divers.") For myself, I really do not see the difference > between what Gilliam printed in his magazine and what George has posted > on this list, other than the fact that Gilliam did not print profanity. > Over the past several days I have read many posts from individuals > justifying the tactics of personal attacks over the internet. In > essence, most of these posts state that if you can't take the heat, then > stop crying about it and get off the list. If people truly believe in > this statement, then they should apply it evenly. From the statement > below, it would seem that Brett Gilliam is merely doing the same thing > that is done on this list daily. If you cannot take the heat, stop > crying about it in your posts. > > >From mr_clark3@ju*.co* Thu Feb 5 05:00:53 1998 > >Received: from m23.boston.juno.com (m23.boston.juno.com > [205.231.100.188]) by zen.kr.com (8.8.4/8.6.9) with ESMTP id GAA20899 > for <cavers@ww*.ge*.co*>; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 06:32:57 -0500 (EST) > >Received: (from mr_clark3@ju*.co*) > > by m23.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id HXH03767; Thu, 05 Feb 1998 > 07:39:55 EST > >To: EANX@ao*.co* > >Cc: cavers@ww*.ge*.co* > >Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 07:46:09 -0500 > >Subject: BULLSHIT magazine > >Message-ID: <19980205.074610.3342.1.mr_clark3@ju*.co*> > >X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 > >X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-2,7 > >From: mr_clark3@ju*.co* (John Clark) > > > > > > Dear Mr. List Operator, > > > > Could you please take Curt Bowen off this "unproductive" list. It > >seems that is reminds him of his own useless magazine , Deep Tech, > which > >is merely the personal vendetta tool of Bret Gilliam and his buddies. > You > >see it is ok for Curt and Deep Tech to do all of the things that Curt > is > >complaining about on here. > > > >_____________________________________________________________________ > >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com > >Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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