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Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 14:10:25 -0500
To: cavers@ww*.ge*.co*
From: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>
Subject: Re: Fraudulent posts
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Oh, I am very calm, roger. And I must defer to your experience, as I am but
a mere Virginia Beach wreck diver. I don't think it is how much you know,
rather how willing or able you are to "spread the wealth" so to speak.
There are plenty of people who like to come on this list and tell us about
all it's problems, but very few who are willing to pass on information of
any kind.

In a previous post I asked you some questions about where you dive, who you
dive with and so on. The most you will reveal is "Caves, wrecks, lakes,
quarries, ocean dives etc. . ." This information alone seems to indicate
that you have a wealth of knowledge to pass on. What quarries do you dive
at? which is your favorite and why? I have never dove in a quarry, so don't
know what it's like. I have been in a lake once, and that was one time too
many. What lakes have you been in?

So help us out, roger. While my posts might "ooze with authority," your
posts echo with emptyness, devoid of usable information but at the same
time are  packed with a know-it-all, sanctimounious implied superiority.
Kind of like half the articles in that last DeepTek.

   Jim


>Calm down Jim.  I'm not your enemy.  Based on our last conversation I
>don't think you really want to engage me in rational argumentation.  On
>the other hand, maybe you do. However, let me respond to your post.I
>would have loved to have gone to DEMA, but unfortunatley it was too far
>away and I could not afford taking off from work.  Probably several
>people on the list had the same problem.  I'm sure I could have learned
>something from the show.  As far as expounding on information and
>techniques, I must confess that my knowledge is slight.  You, on the
>other hand, have much to teach me.  Let me speak plain:  I make no
>claims about my knowledge or abilities in matters related to diving.  On
>the other hand, I am a diver with some experience in various
>environments (Caves, wrecks, lakes, quarries, ocean dives etc. . .)Do I
>consider myself to be an advanced tech diver?  No.  Do I consider myself
>to be a novice?  No.  You seem to make the opposite claim. Your posts
>generally ooze with the authority of one who has learned and experienced
>much and therefore  have much to teach.  So, I must defer to this
>authority and come to you as a student.  Teach me.
>




>Calm down Jim.  I'm not your enemy.  Based on our last conversation I
>don't think you really want to engage me in rational argumentation.  On
>the other hand, maybe you do. However, let me respond to your post.I
>would have loved to have gone to DEMA, but unfortunatley it was too far
>away and I could not afford taking off from work.  Probably several
>people on the list had the same problem.  I'm sure I could have learned
>something from the show.  As far as expounding on information and
>techniques, I must confess that my knowledge is slight.  You, on the
>other hand, have much to teach me.  Let me speak plain:  I make no
>claims about my knowledge or abilities in matters related to diving.  On
>the other hand, I am a diver with some experience in various
>environments (Caves, wrecks, lakes, quarries, ocean dives etc. . .)Do I
>consider myself to be an advanced tech diver?  No.  Do I consider myself
>to be a novice?  No.  You seem to make the opposite claim. Your posts
>generally ooze with the authority of one who has learned and experienced
>much and therefore  have much to teach.  So, I must defer to this
>authority and come to you as a student.  Teach me.
>
>Roger
>>From cobber@ma*.ci*.co* Thu Feb  5 08:24:45 1998
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>>Subject: Re: Fraudulent posts
>>Date: Thu, 5 Feb 98 11:24:27 -0500
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>>From: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>
>>To: "roger steele" <rogersteele@ho*.co*>,
>> <cavers@ww*.ge*.co*>,
>> "Tech Diver" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
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>>OK, Roger, you first. My mind is open. Expound away. Let's hear some
>>information and techniques. How was DEMA, BTW, see anything good?
>>
>>On 2/5/98 9:43 AM roger steele wrote:
>>
>>>Ken,
>>>
>>>I believe you are right.  The CDS sponsers exploration.  Mike needs to
>>>realize that the tactics on this list are not going to change untill
>>>people start focusing on diving.  Maybe he would fair better if he
>would
>>>stop sending posts about internet tactics and start focusing on diving
>>>information and techniques.
>>
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