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At 12:21 AM 1/11/98 -0800, Jon Guizar wrote: >Why would someone freeze their ass off to go 100 feet under the ice? Because there isn't any open water? We're just diving the same lakes we do the rest of the year. Except for those of us who don't have boats, we can get to different sites than we can, shore diving in OW. > If there is a mission to be accomplished, then do it. Take the necessary cave training, assume some responsibility for yourself and "the team" and do it. The cave line isn't going to BREAK. Huh? Who's on a mission? I _thought_ we were talking about recreational ice diving. People have different motives. Look for artifacts. See familiar sites when the visibility is good, instead of with four feet of vis. Just get wet 'cause you like diving and you don't want to miss a week. We're putting in four or five hours of surface support work in exchange for 30 or 60 minutes of bottom time, in 33F water. On a good day. The only divers out here are the diehards. But "recreational" ice diving isn't even remotely like cave diving, and certainly a diver, swimming a 200-foot diameter circle, or doing whatever search pattern they like, on a tether, does not require the same training a cave diver does. Yeah, it's a _tough_ environment, but once you've dealt with that, it's _easy_ diving. All the tether does is make things easier for the diver, one less thing to deal with, other than communicating with your tender. There is a _huge_ difference in how a diver functions in 35 degree water compared to water that is 40-45 degrees F. >If you need to alter the order of entry based on the preference for visibility you should try cutting a hole in the ice where the water below is more than two feet deep. That way the vis wouldn't go to shit from people getting in and out. Excuse me, but some of the lakes _start_ with vis of 4-6-8 feet. Last time I ice dived, the vis was about 2 feet. We aren't thrashing about in the mud, ruining the vis 'cause we can't dive any better, we're _digging_, elbow deep, in the mud, searching, by feel, for bottles, carriage weights, ice cutting tools, things that have been buried there for a hundred years. The vis is going to go to shit no matter what, if that's what the divers are doing. >What's the big deal with finding the exit if a 10 foot walleye chews your cave line. Just go back to the point of entry the same way you would if it were open water. Why do you think people that go through the ice in cars drown? They CAN'T FIND THE HOLE!!!!!! But go ahead and try it if you want.... Nanci -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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