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Date: Tue, 09 Dec 1997 07:31:54 -0500
From: "G. Irvine" <gmirvine@sa*.ne*>
Organization: Woodville Karst Plain Project
To: Dr Neal Harman <N.A.Harman@sw*.ac*.uk*>
CC: cavers@ge*.co*, techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: Deep air kills two more
Neal, suffice it to say I proved them all wrong, one more time. 


Dr Neal Harman wrote:
> 
> Chris Hellas writes:
> >In message <7CteYdAIIui0Ewe0@jo*.de*.co*.uk*>, John Thornton
> ><johnpt@jo*.de*.co*.uk*> writes
> >> I was told it
> >>was the members of the uk cave diving fraternity, I am sure that they
> >>read this list so come on guys what is your problem.Speak up.
> >
> >I think the letter was the sum total of their bravery, however I am sure
> >we would all like a 'heads up' for a proper debate.
> 
> First, if there are any "senior" members of the UK cave diving community on
> the list, they don't post.
> 
> I have only heard the same rumors as everyone else. However:
> 
> 1. UK cave diving is as heterogeneous as US cave diving - perhaps more so
> since the CDG seems to actively encourage anarchy. Also, we have ones with
> brow ridges, calloused knuckles and family trees that don't fork just like
> anywhere else.
> 2. UK cave diving opinions on "deep air" are likely to be a little suspect
> simply because, with a few exceptions, there ain't no "deep".
> 3. Having said that, those divers doing substantial exploration who are
> diving deep in the UK and abroad (e.g. Cordingley, Carter and co.), are
> moving away from deep air.
> 4. The tricky part - I'd like to know (of course:-) who actually signed
> this letter - however, one of the *rumoured* signatories (and I *haven't*
> seen the letter and don't know for sure if this person *did* sign it), is
> someone I have a fair amount of time for, and (a) don't think would become
> involved if he knew the full story, and (b) for reasons too long and boring
> to go into almost certainly *doesn't* know the full story. So it is just
> *possible* that not everyone really knew the implications of what they were
> signing.
> 
> Neal
> 
> Dr N A Harman,
> Department of Computer Science,
> University of Wales Swansea
> Singleton Park
> Swansea SA2 0AQ UK
> tel: +44 1792 295394    fax: +44 1792 295708
> N.A.Harman@sw*
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