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Bill, send me a coouple to 1400 se 11 st ft laduerdale 3316 - thanks for that. As far as determining what various dive shop primates have pumped into you tanks, I jsut stick with my own compressor, Brownies Third Lung, and Underseas Sports, where I know there will be no crap in the air. In the past when I have been hosed, as on the boat when a filter blew up, I just blew the oil out and kept on going. You really have to do a number to get this stuff to blow. As you said, we have no question about what goes in our tanks, but if I got air from the Drunk or other FAS mutant in Florida, I would drill a hole in the tanks and throw the regs away. Bill (aquadart) Bott wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > George, > > If you send me your mailing address I'll drop a couple of spool O- > rings in an envelope and mail them to you. You can give them a try > and if you like them I'll give you the address of my supplier. > > I'm certain that you, I and the rest of the non mongaoid world is > aware of the need to keep everything free of hydrocarbons. However, > there are still many who believe that regular oxygen cleaning is > unnecessary. With the controlled environment of the WKPP that may be > true. However, that is not the case throughout much of the diving > community. I know of one fill station whose owners were not even > aware that air quality analysis was available to him until he found > out from me. FAS for sure!! > > If one of his customers gets a fill then brings the tank to me should > I put myself at risk? Would you put yourself at risk? Should I not > demand that every tank I add pure oxygen to be cleaned?? Are you > willing to stand over the customers tank as I fill it if it's not > cleaned? > > To me the answers seem simple. No, no, yes and no. I have a lot of > respect for the accomplishments of you and the WKPP. However, even > if we could fix the problems with the instructors and dive shops, we > would still have more idiot divers than you can shake a stick at. I > can't count on the customers to fix the problems I face for me. I am > willing to (and have in the past) put a chisel to the threads of my > own tank if I feel it does not pass a visual. But you should hear > the screams when you explain to a customer that "if" their tank does > not pass it will be rendered unserviceable. These idiots and morons > would rather strap a ticking time bomb to there back rather than > spend $125 for a new AL 80. > > With all due respect George, you do your thing in a sterile setting. > You know who is coming forward for a fill. You know were the tanks > have been. Come on up for a week next summer and see what like is > like outside the WKPP. We give the best service we can. But you > have no idea what we are asked to do. "It's only been sitting in the > basement for twenty years. Could you knock the rust out of it and > give it a fill???" > > Drop me a private with a number I can reach you at after 3:30 and > I'll call you. If you have answers I'd like to hear them. At any > rate I think a call could help get both our points across. > > At 08:10 AM 12/7/97 -0500, you wrote: > >Bill, use them if you have them. I have found them unnecessary. > >However, if you can suggest a good source for the tiny o-rings in > the hp > >spools that are more durable, I WILL replace those.These tend to > mush > >out + Also, getting the correct durometer o-rings for each > application > >is well beyond the farm animal stupidity that is the trademark of > most > >dive shop savants. > > > > In addition, Chief, on your oxygen cleaning stuff, everything needs > to > >be clean and free of hydrocarbons, and we all know this. What the > >savants don't know, and why we see these problems, is that you also > must > >have decent valves, not nickelrocketry like comes with most "kits", > and > >these need to be operated properly, a big problem when you are > talking > >divers or dive shop monkees. > > > > On another subject, Bill, only a complete moron would have a filter > in > >a regulator - that is begging for trouble, and you just showed three > >good reasons why. What do es one expect to be in his scuba tank that > >requires a filter which just disintegrates and ruins the regulator > or > >causes a fire when operated by a mongoloid dive shop mutant? The > most > >life-supporting use of compressed air has no filters, but then as > the > >Army found out in Carter's botched Iraninan hostage rescue attempt - > you > >don't operate in sand. Next time you get on a 747, make sure they > have > >filters over the four air compressors you are beting your life on, > and > >make sure they have oxygen cleaned those babies. > > > >I have enough to worry about, but then I know where my gas comes > from, > >and no idiots operate my equipment. Keep in mind you are looking at > >only part of the problem, and ignoring the rest, which is how the > dive > >industry gets ( unnecessary) business. > > > >This "cleaning" then becomes a mysterious secret operation requiring > at > >least two major credit cards with a personal financial statement > >required to get in line for the unobtanium o-rings available only in > a > >complete kit specially collected by the same morons who can't make > the > >regulator right in the first place, available to you only if you > allkow > >the dive shop Quasimoto to intall them. > > > >As Hyperski says, "tanks, but no tanks". - G > > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 > Charset: noconv > > iQA/AwUBNIukO/PdqRXLjbJGEQKOygCg1RfAOj99oQfCjLBuQux9JC1zPMQAoKfp > mGyB5gJgSGOG1ps6xpVZU2zU > =EQ59 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Bill (aquadart) Bott -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. 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