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Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 08:06:07 -0400
From: "James E. Robertson" <nforcer1@ix*.ne*.co*>
To: "John B. Crabby" <tri-mix@ro*.co*>
CC: techdiver@aquanaut.com, gmiiii@in*.co*
Subject: Re: Palmer' s Death
I cannot address the substance of what you say. But I CAN tell you that
you have no balls if you have to say it with a pseudonym through
Rocketmail. Try again, and put your real name and e-mail address on it.

John B. Crabby wrote:
> 
> Bottom line, Palmer was an idiot and a danger to every one he came in
> contact with if it involved teaching them anything about diving. he
> has been going around the world for the past several years filling his
> pockets withmoney at the expense of the safety of those he "trained".
> he trained no one.
> 
> To my knowledge he never once in the past few years attempte to teach
> a proper program to anyone. It was always the shorter the better, he
> would certify a rebreater IT in an afternoon and that would be a long
> course.
> 
> He and a few other go around teaching this deep air bullsit and saying
> that you can learn to "dive to 66 msw safely" because it is easy to
> draw in the suckers with that. You don't need any special equiment, we
> can tie those two 80 cf AL's togeather, throw on two or three SPG's
> and we are ready for a 100 msw air dive.
> 
> He was consistant on one thing, every program he taught was bogus and
> full of crap and anyone trained by him would do well to seek
> retraining as soon as possible if you value your life. Unless of
> course you also do not think that the rules apply to you, in which
> case you to will eventually be the topic of this very same
> conversation.
> 
> Palmer wanted to jump off that boat and prove to those he was about to
> rip off for some kind of bullshit that he was the hero they needed, so
> much for that. I will wager those fellows are reconsidering their
> venture into safe deep air diving.
> 
> This guy was a robber and a blight on the diving profession as is
> known by many. It is not being said because it does not look good.
> Bottom line this guy was infactuated with his own press, and now he is
> fish food.
> 
> this was not a planned and executed dive , it was a stupid excercise
> in ego and a cruel blow to his family and friends who cared for him I
> am sure.
> 
> For them I feel sorrow, for him I feel none, his death is no loss to
> the profession of teching diving.
> 
> To all of you people in the Red Sea who he had a particular affinity
> for ripping off with his line of crap I advise you to seek out real
> training as soon as possible or you or someone you 'certify' will wind
> up at the bottom as well.
> 
> As far as Asia goes someone else has already stepped in to train the
> hundreds of IT's and the like who will get the quick and easy
> certification and might even actually think it is real.
> 
> So please don't get on here and try to make palmner out to be a
> victim, a hero, and accident or any other bullshit. He got his wish,
> test fate without the proper training and disipline and you to can
> join him.
> 
> If anyone wants to start a Palmer crusade let me first warn you that
> there are so many incidents and facts that can be shown in support of
> every word said here that it would take weeks to assemble it all.
> 
> I am not speaking of the man, but rather his actions, but then again
> are we not defined in this brief life by our actions ?
> 
> ===
> John B. Crabby
> 
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