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Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 07:24:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: "John B. Crabby" <tri-mix@ro*.co*>
Subject: Re: Palmer' s Death
To: "James E. Robertson" <nforcer1@ix*.ne*.co*>
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com

James, The truth remains the truth no matter what it's source, so your
point it invalid. If you feel you can defend what was said there
should be nothing stopping you. I did not write it so I could exchange
crap with everyone on this list who bought a bag of shit. I wrote it
because it is the truth. If you have another angle, I'm sure everyone
would like to hear it. Go for it




===
John B. Crabby





---"James E. Robertson"  wrote:
>
> I cannot address the substance of what you say. But I CAN tell you
that
> you have no balls if you have to say it with a pseudonym through
> Rocketmail. Try again, and put your real name and e-mail address on
it.
> 
> John B. Crabby wrote:
> > 
> > Bottom line, Palmer was an idiot and a danger to every one he came
in
> > contact with if it involved teaching them anything about diving. he
> > has been going around the world for the past several years filling
his
> > pockets withmoney at the expense of the safety of those he
"trained".
> > he trained no one.
> > 
> > To my knowledge he never once in the past few years attempte to
teach
> > a proper program to anyone. It was always the shorter the better,
he
> > would certify a rebreater IT in an afternoon and that would be a
long
> > course.
> > 
> > He and a few other go around teaching this deep air bullsit and
saying
> > that you can learn to "dive to 66 msw safely" because it is easy to
> > draw in the suckers with that. You don't need any special
equiment, we
> > can tie those two 80 cf AL's togeather, throw on two or three SPG's
> > and we are ready for a 100 msw air dive.
> > 
> > He was consistant on one thing, every program he taught was bogus
and
> > full of crap and anyone trained by him would do well to seek
> > retraining as soon as possible if you value your life. Unless of
> > course you also do not think that the rules apply to you, in which
> > case you to will eventually be the topic of this very same
> > conversation.
> > 
> > Palmer wanted to jump off that boat and prove to those he was
about to
> > rip off for some kind of bullshit that he was the hero they
needed, so
> > much for that. I will wager those fellows are reconsidering their
> > venture into safe deep air diving.
> > 
> > This guy was a robber and a blight on the diving profession as is
> > known by many. It is not being said because it does not look good.
> > Bottom line this guy was infactuated with his own press, and now
he is
> > fish food.
> > 
> > this was not a planned and executed dive , it was a stupid
excercise
> > in ego and a cruel blow to his family and friends who cared for
him I
> > am sure.
> > 
> > For them I feel sorrow, for him I feel none, his death is no loss
to
> > the profession of teching diving.
> > 
> > To all of you people in the Red Sea who he had a particular
affinity
> > for ripping off with his line of crap I advise you to seek out real
> > training as soon as possible or you or someone you 'certify' will
wind
> > up at the bottom as well.
> > 
> > As far as Asia goes someone else has already stepped in to train
the
> > hundreds of IT's and the like who will get the quick and easy
> > certification and might even actually think it is real.
> > 
> > So please don't get on here and try to make palmner out to be a
> > victim, a hero, and accident or any other bullshit. He got his
wish,
> > test fate without the proper training and disipline and you to can
> > join him.
> > 
> > If anyone wants to start a Palmer crusade let me first warn you
that
> > there are so many incidents and facts that can be shown in support
of
> > every word said here that it would take weeks to assemble it all.
> > 
> > I am not speaking of the man, but rather his actions, but then
again
> > are we not defined in this brief life by our actions ?
> > 
> > ===
> > John B. Crabby
> > 
> >
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