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Once again, no claim that independents are safer.  Just that "they are
not without merit."  I am specifically asking how they are safer. 
Still, nobody will make that claim.

I don't disagree that there are advantages to independents.  There are
certainly advantages to just about any configuration.  Advantages do not
make something safer.

Anyone?

Mark Welzel wrote:
> 
> Regardless of all the banter from the cave crowd, the safety issues
> brought up concerning independants have ALL been diver error and
> not system error. That is how certain equipment is condemned on
> this list, no good reason not to use except for inability to use
> it properly.
> 
> Alas, I am but a poor boat monkey (thanx georgie) and have
> only seen thousands of divers and been on over a thousand dives
> myself and therefore cannot contribute, let alone disagree, with
> the content of this list.
> 
> For the record:
> - I have not condemned long hoses I just think they are necessary.
> - I have used a manifold for the last 3 years, but independants
> are not without merit. It's just that no one wants to talk about
> them.
> 
> As for everything else; if you don't have George's BC and Georges
> scooter and George's light (not butt-mounted) and Georges fins
> and Georges configuration and your head up Georges ass then you
> are a stroke. Very simple, really.
> 
> Mark
> ps - I dive because I enjoy it, not to prove anything to anyone
> or to look fashionable above and below the water and especially
> not to fit in with some click, I mean team!
> Be safe-stay home!
> 
> Dave Mabry wrote:
> >
> > A few days ago I answered a post by Janet, the New England boat captain,
> > regarding advantages of independents vs. manifolds.  At that time (and a
> > few times before that) I posed the following question:
> >
> >         How are independents SAFER than manifolded doubles?
> >
> > There has been much banter here about certain advantages of independents
> > and the pro-manifold people have pointed out advantages of thier system.
> > Advantages of independents included thing like easier to handle on
> > boats, reduced cost if you have a burst disk go, fewer total tanks
> > needed for a multiday boat trip, etc.  But, NOBODY has pointed out any
> > way that independents are SAFER than manifolded doubles.
> >
> > Most of the advantages of manifolded doubles have to do precisely with
> > safety.
> >
> > I would conclude that since the pro-independent croud really can't point
> > out advantages of independents that make them safer, that indeed they
> > ARE NOT safer!

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Dave Mabry     dmabry@mi*.co*
Great Lakes Maritime Institute Underwater Research Team
NACD           NSS-CDS #42872

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