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Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 05:10:55 -0500
From: Mark Welzel <mark@mr*.co*>
Organization: MRW Consulting
To: dmabry@mi*.co*
CC: techdiver@terra.net
Subject: Re: My question about independents
Regardless of all the banter from the cave crowd, the safety issues
brought up concerning independants have ALL been diver error and
not system error. That is how certain equipment is condemned on
this list, no good reason not to use except for inability to use
it properly.

Alas, I am but a poor boat monkey (thanx georgie) and have
only seen thousands of divers and been on over a thousand dives
myself and therefore cannot contribute, let alone disagree, with
the content of this list.

For the record:
- I have not condemned long hoses I just think they are necessary.
- I have used a manifold for the last 3 years, but independants
are not without merit. It's just that no one wants to talk about
them.

As for everything else; if you don't have George's BC and Georges
scooter and George's light (not butt-mounted) and Georges fins
and Georges configuration and your head up Georges ass then you
are a stroke. Very simple, really.

Mark
ps - I dive because I enjoy it, not to prove anything to anyone
or to look fashionable above and below the water and especially
not to fit in with some click, I mean team! 
Be safe-stay home!


Dave Mabry wrote:
> 
> A few days ago I answered a post by Janet, the New England boat captain,
> regarding advantages of independents vs. manifolds.  At that time (and a
> few times before that) I posed the following question:
> 
>         How are independents SAFER than manifolded doubles?
> 
> There has been much banter here about certain advantages of independents
> and the pro-manifold people have pointed out advantages of thier system.
> Advantages of independents included thing like easier to handle on
> boats, reduced cost if you have a burst disk go, fewer total tanks
> needed for a multiday boat trip, etc.  But, NOBODY has pointed out any
> way that independents are SAFER than manifolded doubles.
> 
> Most of the advantages of manifolded doubles have to do precisely with
> safety.
> 
> I would conclude that since the pro-independent croud really can't point
> out advantages of independents that make them safer, that indeed they
> ARE NOT safer!
> --
> Dave Mabry     dmabry@mi*.co*
> Great Lakes Maritime Institute
>   Underwater  Research  Team
> 
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