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Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 07:03:31 -0500
To: techdiver@terra.net
From: Mr Lungs <mrlungs@to*.co*>
Subject: Re: My question about independents

>
>At 05:10 AM 1/2/97 -0500, you wrote:
>>Regardless of all the banter from the cave crowd, the safety issues
>>brought up concerning independants have ALL been diver error and
>>not system error. That is how certain equipment is condemned on
>>this list, no good reason not to use except for inability to use
>>it properly.
>
>Read on......................................
>>
>>Alas, I am but a poor boat monkey (thanx georgie) and have
>>only seen thousands of divers and been on over a thousand dives
>>myself and therefore cannot contribute, let alone disagree, with
>>the content of this list.
>
>Damn, I didn't know that monkies could dive, I know that there was this dog
in Key west that use to dive...... been on over a thousand dives, does that
mean you were the bubble watcher????  Must have been with the way that you
are thinking, No diver, Divemaster, instructor, or tech diver could be
thinking they way that you are, so that must mean that you are one of them
there land lubber, hell, ya got the monkey hair for it..At least that is
what you are calling yourself....
>>
>>For the record:
>>- I have not condemned long hoses I just think they are necessary.
>>- I have used a manifold for the last 3 years, but independants
>>are not without merit. It's just that no one wants to talk about
>>them.
>
>You say that you have not condemned long hoses, then what is this that you
said at 02jan97@03* and I quote "Also what is the cost difference assuming
that you got a standard length hose with your 2nd stage and now you have
allowed some dive shop a 300% profit on that long hose.
>
>You have Condemned it saying that it cost 300% more to own this pice of
equipment. If it cost you or anyone else 300% more than what it cost, you
are a dumbass for that not us.. Most reputable dealers only mark up a pice
of equipment (on the average) 50 - 60 %.  I know because I sell it on
occasion...
>
>Also why keep talking about something that is really out dated???  Stop and
think aout the progress of diving, it has come along way in the past 20
years, and thing are made better and cheaper. Independents are out dated,
They should be set on the shelf for display with the hard hat systems.  Do
you see any of the comercial divers diving the old copper helments, granted
maybe in their traing they do, but now it is all high tec.   
>>
>>As for everything else; if you don't have George's BC and Georges
>>scooter and George's light (not butt-mounted) and Georges fins
>>and Georges configuration and your head up Georges ass then you
>>are a stroke. Very simple, really.
>
>I don't have George's BC, or George's Scooter, or George's Light, or
Georges fins, or Georges configuration, But I will garantee ya, that alot of
what he has said to use will be use by myself and alot others.  It has been
tried and proven to work, so why not use it????   "O", BTW, How in the hell
can I have my head up Georges ass, when I have never meet this man??? Hell
he lives about 300 miles from me???? 
>
>>Mark
>
>ladies and gents, if you do not like 4 letter words, please stop here, it
is going to get alittle messy..................................................
>
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>So now Mark, why don't you shut the FUCK UP, Enough of this bullshit!!!!!!!!!!!
>If you don't like it go FUCKING UNSUBSCRIBE!!!! There are ppl that are
learning things from what is being said, and all you are doing if FUCKING
wasteing band with... You are about one, one way mother.   You dive your set
up, and George will dive his, and I will dive mine....  This independent
shit is getting old real quick like!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   And if you don't drop
it, I am going to come up there and stick a 10cm ET tube down your trac, and
then attatch it to your ass.
>
>Jeoff
>
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