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Joel- Jeez - give me a break! "stuffing the wrong regulator in your mouth" is a figure of speech, not a litteral description. Second - While your suggestions about putting things over the mouthpiece to make it difficult to make a mistake are OK, it's much better (and safer) to make it *IMPOSSIBLE* to make a mistake. Your point about unscrewing the yoke screw is well taken, but if you do that on a deco stop you're not dead and if you are in such a blind panic that you do it on the bottom you're probably gonna die anyway. Third - In 24 years of diving, I have lost 3 friends to diving accidents. All three were very experienced divers. Only one did something blatantly stupid (went inside a wreck with no line, stirred up the silt...end of story). The other two were done in by the kind of trivial mistakes that are almost impossible to prevent by planning or gear configuration. (One got pinned on the bottom while on a commercial job, the other somehow got snagged on a lift bag he was sending up from 170 and embolized). The point is, the best you can do is all you can do. Guys like George spend a lot of time and effort thinking about gear configurations that minimize the chance of screwing up - and that's good. But, eliminating the chance of screwing up is even better.(No George, I didn't say you don't try to eliminate the chance of screwing up, I've seen your video and I know you do). Ray At 12:09 AM 9/19/96 -0400, you wrote: >In a message dated 96-09-18 23:54:11 EDT, you write: > ><< Actually, I think the better reason to pressurize the deco reg then turn >it > off is to guard against that inevitable day when Murphy makes you do > something dumb - like stuffing the wrong regulator in your mouth...if you > can't suck in any deco mix on the bottom, you can't OD on O2. > You're too great a superdiver for this ever to happen to you? Yeah, right! > > Ray >> > >Dear Ray , > >If you STUFF a regulator in your mouth that is not coming from the safety >hanging below your neck -- I must assume that you are approaching panic. In >that case you will probably (if a yoke reg ) try and turn on the valve and >actually turn the yoke screw off and lose the whole dam thing -- > >Another method that works very well is the physical barrier over the >mouthpiece -- we use surgical tubing in an O place over the mouthpiece and >second stage > >A single for the Oxygen and a double for the EAN 36 --- and a tripple for >anything deeper than 130fsw. > >We also keep the valve open just a crack to maintain charge with the 7" hp >hose and a clean set up the risk of a free flow is minimal and we can monitor >the gague at a moments glance as opposed to wondering if it pissed out. > >Joel Silverstein >-- >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@terra.net'. >Send subscription/archive requests to `techdiver-request@terra.net'. > >
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