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To: techdiver@opal.com
Subject: Do you want information?
From: <RICK515@de*.co*>
Date: Mon, 09 May 1994 23:29:17 -0400 (EDT)
Below is an exchange of e-mail from myself and Dave Story regarding my
posting on the IANTD news release.  The edited version of which appears 
below.  I have recieved 34 responses and 33 have requested the posting
if not on techdiver, at least via a private mail list.  I felt that Dave's
response warranted a response since I could easily see if not agree with
his arguement.  So I asked him if I could post his responses and he agreed.

I think he has hit on an excellent solution when he suggests that all
posting from a commercial source be designated as such in the subject area
allowing anyone who does not wish to view it the opportunity to either filter
it or at least delete it.

Unless I get some major oblections, either from JR or others on this matter
over the next two days, I will post the edited IANTD news release using
the subject heading "com. IANTD press release"  I hope that this will 
satisfy everyones concerns, yet still allow free distribution of information
regardless of the source.  

I will be forwarding this to jr, who is off the list right now for 
comments and welcome any others.

Best Regards
RW
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Rick Williams writes:
> 
> My question to the techdiver readership is this.  Are you interested in 
> seeing selected postings that might impact your diving or answer 
> questions, or should I not since these originate from commercial 
> concerns.  As an example I just recieved a press release from IANTD on 
> some new manuals for overhead diving.  It occurs that this might be of 
> interest to a lot of people, but at the same time, with the reaction to 
> the ITD announcement, I don't want to step on any toes.

No, I'm not at all interested.  I have other forums to find out about
this.  Do NOT send me direct e-mail with any advertisements.  If you
were distributing on a voluntary reader setup like netnews, no
problem, but your messages to techdiver go directly to my inbox, and
I'd rather not have to filter any more than I have to.

Dave

Rick Williams writes:
> 
> This is exactly the problem.  I've had about twenty responses all wanting 
> the information, yet you are basicly demanding not to recieve it via 
> techdiver.  Since many sites do not have usenet and e-mail is the only 
> universal service, what is to be done.  Do I work this as a vote, 20-1, 
> you'd lose, but the issue I think is a free flow of information.  If I 
> post an E-mail on the bases, "Hey I heard IANTD has a couple of new books 
> out, that isn't commercial.  If IANTD says it, it suddenly is.  It's 
> still information, and a lot of stuff that gets carried has a commercial 
> impact.  

> With your permission, I'd like to post this to techdiver along with your
> orginal response.  Either way, lets just agree that we disagree yet 
> acknowledge the other persons view.

Sure, no problem.  There are two technical solutions, in descending
order of preference:

1) Make a seperate "techdiver-announce" list, so those folks
interested can read and post whatever they like.

2) Enforce a standard SUBJECT line which specifies that this is an
commercial announcement.  That way one can skip the announcement and
read only the responses, or kill an entire thread regarding an
announcement.  

Mail is simply not set up for N-way conversations.  The right answer
is to use a netnews "bulletin board" with all its capabilities to
handle the volumes we're starting to get into.  

This list is simply getting too popular to be a mailing list.  The
volume is too high, and we'll drive away with sheer volume those folks
who could contribute.

Cheers,

David Story                             NAUI AI Z9588, PADI DM 43922, EMT
story@be*.wp*.sg*.co*           Opinions my own, and subject to dispute.

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