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To: gmcgee1@fo*.co* (), cgh@ma*.ai*.mi*.ed*
From: sirving@ne*.co* (Irving, Steve)
Subject: Re: That long hose thang...
Cc: techdiver@terra.net
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 18:19:43 -0500
At 03:17 PM 1/12/96 +0500,  wrote:
>Carl,
>
>How about answering the question I DID ASK!  Not the one you want me
>to ask.
>
>I repeat.
>
>Keeping all things equal.  Thatis, NO What if's, (We can all "What if" our
>selve to death),  No little kid imagination.  Just plain Fact.
>Try to use just plain logic and common sense.
>
>How can you say taking a good working regulator out of your mouth
>is safer then keeping the regulator in your mouth?
>
>Again no imagination please.  Answer (simple) YES or NO!
>
>Question:
>Is it safer to take a good working regulator out of your mouth underwater
>or to keep it in your mouth?

Yes, it is safer to take the working regulator out of your mouth and pass it
to an out of air diver (OAD).  Why you ask?  The remaining option is to hand
them a regulator that may, or may not be working.  Let us assume that it is
working, and thus everything works out fine.  But we don't plan things
assuming that everything will work out fine.  This is why cave divers use
three lights, not just two.  This is why cavers use duel outlet manifolds.
This is why the thirds air rule was hatched.  We must assume that the worst
case scenario will take place at the maximum penetration, or worst place in
the dive.  
Now, should we not also assume that the back-up regulator will be fouled?
If so, who will most likely be in a position to handle this?  Let's assume
worst case again, and assume that the OAD discovered they were out of gas
after exhaling and then trying to pull a vacuum on their doubles.
The fact is that someone has to take a regulator that is in  questionable
working order.  If it's delivered to a panicked diver, they will come
looking for the one that's working.  If this is in fact what happens, all
that's been accomplished is that the OAD is now getting the one out of your
mouth anyway, but the stress level has jumped exponentially.  They came
looking for gas (life) and were denied. 
This is all fun to discuss, but it's real serious also.  If this really
happens, you get one chance.  Do you hand off a reg. that is working and
will deliver gas and save a life?  Or do you gamble and hand off a reg. that
is questionable?
I'm sorry, but one must assume some "what ifs," or we could just through
away all our extra reg's, light's, pressure gauges and go back to the 60's.
We learn from previous mistakes, and do well not to repeat them.

Steve

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