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>> 
>> Now as to the effectivness of this material, I have dived both wet and
>dry,
>> my wet suit is the same thickness as my dry suit 6.5mm, the wetsuit is

>> double over the body.
>> 
>> The drysuit is Titanium plush lined and all I use under it is a 'T' shirt
>> thick body suit, no wooly bear's or thinsulate's.
>> 
>> So if it is a placebo effect it is a very effective placebo effect.

>You're not exactly comparing apples to apples either.  Wetsuits and 
>dry suits work differently.  For one thing, you lose heat about 200 times
>faster when you're wet.  This isn't a placebo effect at all.


Well due to the wonder of the delete key the first part of the message was
ommitted, it wasn't ne that claimed the suits only worked because we were
told that they worked (placebo effect), I was just pointing out that that
was not the case.

Unfortunatly my mail system cleared out all the read messages last night and
I cannot recall the name of the initial poster.

however I believe that I recall his sugestion of an experiment involving two
gloves, one Ti lined and the other not, a bar and several cold beers, so he
probably has a hangover.

Also yesterday there was a posting that did clarify the case, it was stated
that the benefit of a Ti lined suit was in he thermal retention properties
of Ti and not it's ability to reflect heat, this would mean that the suit
would be initially warmer but would eventually (I wonder how long ?) revert
to normal neoprene insulation. How about persuing this line ?

Hallsworth

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