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Mike, maybe teh CDS "training" committee or Mouth at IANTD could tell us the virtues of some of the "fine" points of diving that Rennaker ( an instrucitor for both agencies ) has been teaching, and preaching on here , like : 1) knowing when to leave your buddy, "especially a husband and wife team" ( I assume he means in the water). 2) "who's the most important diver" 3) putting the worst reg you have on the long hose and stuffing it ? There is no sense talking to the NACD as Rennaker is on the "training commmitte", anbd the TD is a joke, as is the BOD, and the organization itself, a mere wisp of smoke left that has no chance with its present course to nowhere. Is this sudpitiy outlined abouve ( quotes from Renanker on this forum ) the policy of the CDS or IANTD, or is this the dementia of a farm anmial? The fact is that this is so stupid and so irresponsibly dangerous, that only the worst idiots would allow it to occur. But wait, I think I just answered my own question. Another question: do we have to wait for the Rennakers to die of fat slobbery induced diseases and the mouths to retire in order ot get things changed, or is this genetic cesspool bottomless and the heritage of stupidity so well entrenched and passed on that we can expect it to continue until cave diving and tech diving are anachronisms by virtue of the fact that there will be nobody willing to allow it to occur on their property, including the State of FLorida ) other than by the WKPP ) and the gvt will be so sick of body collection and accident investigation in the ocean that it will be stopped? Or, can we rid these organizations of the booze party fat slobs and dumb red necks and get moving here? Tech has at lease an alternative and a chance as so many can now see the light. I'd like to ehar from Mount or anyone in CDS or any instructor, even Rannaaaaker as to the logic and justification of the three things outlined above that this guy teaches, and why this should be allowed to persist. For example, I would not leave any buddy ( not even my ex wife ) and in the WKPP any of the three attitudes mentioned above and taught by Rennaekr are grounds for immediate dismissal from the WKPP - just those attitudes - actually doing it incomprehensible. Funny who gets the job done and who is bullshit out there in tech and cave, huh? Not so funny who has the track record of what, is it? Mike Bruic wrote: > > In light of Rennaker's health, I think that "stroke instructor" now has a > dual meaning. > > Bruic > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Trey <trey@ne*.co*> > To: Joel Markwell <joeldm@mi*.co*> > Cc: <cavers@cavers.com> > Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2000 9:28 PM > Subject: Re: CDS Mag Editors > > > I'll send her a story . This should give Rennaker another heart attack. > > > > > > Joel Markwell wrote: > > > > > > on 4/20/00 5:18 PM, Trey at trey@ne*.co* wrote: > > > > > > > I bet they would put some extreme heat on Beth Sommers not to publish > if > > > > I sumitted. > > > > > > Trey, > > > > > > DO submit something. She'll publish it or walk, I'm sure of it. I've > heard > > > about a lot of the BS she's had to deal with second-hand from others so > I > > > know she's fighting. She's even written and asked me for articles, so > I'd > > > bet she'd publish just about anything from you--within reason. > > > > > > Later, > > > > > > JoeL > > > > > >
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