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From: "Mike Bruic" <mikebruic@di*.co*>
To: <trey@ne*.co*>
Cc: <cavers@cavers.com>, "Joel Markwell" <joeldm@mi*.co*>
Subject: Re: Teaching THIS????????Re: CDS Mag Editors
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 16:34:39 -0400
Trey, you forgot my personal favorite, "my air, is MY AIR" statement of
Rennaker's. If cave diving had a equivalent of a Darwin award, it would most
certainly have to be named after Rennaker. Just to top it off, this self
professed liar calls law enforcement officials  and EMT's "liars" also, and
then the NSS/CDS, NACD, and IANTD all stand behind Rennaker with support and
sanction him. Why would "anybody" endorse such a cluster of clowns and
jesters with membership dues is beyond my reason of thinking. Why don't they
just get it over with and induct Ted Bundy and Charles Mansion into the
instructor core and complete the circle.

Bruic

----- Original Message -----
From: Trey <trey@ne*.co*>
To: Mike Bruic <mikebruic@di*.co*>
Cc: Joel Markwell <joeldm@mi*.co*>; <cavers@cavers.com>
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2000 6:19 AM
Subject: Teaching THIS????????Re: CDS Mag Editors


> Mike, maybe teh CDS "training" committee or Mouth at IANTD could tell us
> the virtues of some of the "fine" points of diving that Rennaker ( an
> instrucitor for both agencies )  has been teaching, and preaching on
> here , like :
>
> 1) knowing when to leave your buddy, "especially a husband and wife
> team"  ( I assume he means in the water).
>
> 2) "who's the most important diver"
>
> 3) putting the worst reg you have on the long hose and stuffing it ?
>
> There is no sense talking to the NACD as Rennaker is on the "training
> commmitte", anbd the TD is a joke, as is the BOD, and the organization
> itself, a mere wisp of smoke left that has no chance with its present
> course to nowhere.
>
> Is this sudpitiy outlined abouve ( quotes from Renanker on this forum )
> the policy of the CDS or IANTD, or is this the dementia of a farm
> anmial? The fact is that this is so stupid and so irresponsibly
> dangerous, that only the worst idiots would allow it to occur. But wait,
> I think I just answered my own question.
>
> Another question: do we have to wait for the Rennakers to die of fat
> slobbery induced diseases and the mouths to retire in order ot get
> things changed, or is this genetic cesspool bottomless and the heritage
> of stupidity so well entrenched and passed on that we can expect it to
> continue until cave diving and tech diving are anachronisms by virtue of
> the fact that there will be nobody willing to allow it to occur on their
> property, including the State of FLorida ) other than by the WKPP ) and
> the gvt will be so sick of body collection and accident investigation in
> the ocean that it will be stopped?
>
> Or, can we rid these organizations of the booze party fat slobs and dumb
> red necks and get moving here? Tech has at lease an alternative and a
> chance as so many can now see the light.
>
> I'd like to ehar from Mount or anyone in CDS or any instructor, even
> Rannaaaaker as to the logic and justification of the three things
> outlined above that this guy teaches, and why this should be allowed to
> persist.
>
> For example, I would not leave any buddy ( not even my ex wife ) and in
> the WKPP any of the three attitudes mentioned above and taught by
> Rennaekr are grounds for immediate dismissal from the WKPP - just those
> attitudes - actually doing it incomprehensible.
>
> Funny who gets the job done and who is bullshit out there in tech and
> cave, huh? Not so funny who has the track record of what, is it?
>
>
> Mike Bruic wrote:
> >
> > In light of Rennaker's health, I think that "stroke instructor" now has
a
> > dual meaning.
> >
> > Bruic
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Trey <trey@ne*.co*>
> > To: Joel Markwell <joeldm@mi*.co*>
> > Cc: <cavers@cavers.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2000 9:28 PM
> > Subject: Re: CDS Mag Editors
> >
> > > I'll send her a story . This should give Rennaker another heart
attack.
> > >
> > >
> > > Joel Markwell wrote:
> > > >
> > > > on 4/20/00 5:18 PM, Trey at trey@ne*.co* wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I bet they would put some extreme heat on Beth Sommers not to
publish
> > if
> > > > > I sumitted.
> > > >
> > > > Trey,
> > > >
> > > > DO submit something. She'll publish it or walk, I'm sure of it. I've
> > heard
> > > > about a lot of the BS she's had to deal with second-hand from others
so
> > I
> > > > know she's fighting. She's even written and asked me for articles,
so
> > I'd
> > > > bet she'd publish just about anything from you--within reason.
> > > >
> > > > Later,
> > > >
> > > > JoeL
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
>

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