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Mark, many of us in WKPP got involved in the two organizations, and all
ended up quitting in disgust. The instructor base is so bad that there
is no way to deal with it. As you recall, JJ was Training Director of
the NACD for a short while and threw in the towel . He would have had to
have stripped most of them of their ticket to do any good, and the
obvious alternative was to start a totally new organization.

We did that in training with GUE and in general with the WKPP.


OSTDIVE@ao*.co* wrote:
> 
> Thanks Mike, I think this is a reasonalble alternative. I understand your
> frustration. I, like many, was taught by Tyler before GUE and have joined GUE
> as soon as the organization was formed, at the regular level. I did this
> because of my respect for Tyler, JJ and all others. I wish I could easily
> affect a change in the CDS, other than voting, but am located out of state at
> school. I think the answer is democracy, ultimately, the vote. This is a
> first step in a change for the better I hope. A new generation of divers is
> coming up with a better way. Evolution works with organizations as well as
> biology. I remember when some of the WKPP people ran for office. GUE is an
> high level teaching organization and as such ahs the advantage in being small
> and lean. But if we destroy the NACD or CDS. Will GUE fill the gap; and more
> importantly, if it grows will it be possible to avoid the pitfalls, inherent
> in a larger organization? I hope so. I have faith in GUE. I think we all
> should join GUE and then change, toghether, the other organizations for the
> better. They once were good and served a needed purpose. Remeber the 60's?
> Thanks for listening to a longer post than I like. My two cents anyway.
> Mark Ost

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