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Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 06:45:43 -0500
From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
To: Jess Armantrout <armantrout@wo*.at*.ne*>
CC: Barbara Peterson <nocturne_cvs@ya*.co*>, cavers@cavers.com
Subject: Re: Bent Jill
Jess, maybe the crusading Barbara Peterson can tell us why it is ok for
Jill Heinerth to claim she went "10,000" feet in Wakulla when she went
approximately half of that. Is it because Stone and Nordstom claimed
that the two Brits went "14,000" feet when they went a little more than
half of that ( I talked to them and got the landmarks where they were,
unless I screwed up the survey and that meant that I went 23,000 feet
insted of 18,000 )?

Barb, is it ok to lie ? Is that setting a good example in tec diving,
Barbara? Is Jill Heinrth a lying scumbag or not?

Help me out here - you seem so intent on screwing with me and the WKPP,
and you are way over your head already, and I think you are nothing more
than one more lousy hypocrite with the blinders on. You are full of shit
like the rest, and that makes you part of the problem.

You need to answer those questions, Barbara, before you make any more
comments about us, or just shut the hell up. Your version of tenth hand
bullshit stories is again one more example of what a low life hypocrite
you really are, and your hand wringing defense of the lying  Jill
Heinerth is pathetic.

Jess Armantrout wrote:
> 
> hey, try to get the whole story before you make a complete and utter
> blithering idiot of yourself.
> 
> I got minor skin bends on the dive, dove the next two days and flew home on
> the third.  That's a far freaking cry from serious problems.
> 
> Tell, me more about my lack of judgement.  Tell me how you deco from your
> 351' dives.  I love you cyberdivers second guessing the people out there
> doing the dives.
> 
> I never gave up diving or cave diving.  I backed off from doing anything
> over about an hour bottom time at 300 feet.  If you would like to carry my
> tanks to the water for me this weekend you can watch as a do a 5000 foot
> dive at Wakulla.
> 
> Other than the above, your post was amazingly accurate.
> 
> Sincerly GFY,
> Jess Armantrout
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Barbara Peterson <nocturne_cvs@ya*.co*>
> To: cavers@cavers.com <cavers@cavers.com>
> Date: Tuesday, March 28, 2000 5:04 PM
> Subject: Re: Bent Jill
> 
> >
> >
> >>>I love to see slobs like this get wacked trying
> >> > to do what fit divers can do in their sleep. She
> >is
> >> pathetic.
> >> >
> >
> >
> >An event occurred a few months ago.  I don't remember
> >the name of the individual, tho I believe he was WKPP
> >endorsed, who executed poor judgement on a cave dive.
> >He had trekked all the way to the site (in Mexico?)
> >and was exhausted, went diving anyway, and serious
> >problems resulted.  I don't remember the exact
> >details.  However the resultant illness caused him to
> >give up diving for a while.  Anyone else remember
> >this?  In any event, he was a pro, exercised poor
> >judgement due to the fact that he was tired, and paid
> >the price.  But since he was a WKPP-er...
> >
> >As for Sally Ride, she was not a dillettante who had
> >forced her way onto the shuttle in a position of
> >power.  She was a mission specialist, a public
> >relations stunt, sure, if you like, but since she was
> >a passenger and not in charge of piloting the shuttle
> >or using substandard material to design/build the
> >shuttle, to even equate her to Jill Heinerth is foolish.
> >
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