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Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 06:20:55 -0500
From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
To: Scott Landon <js_landon@ho*.co*>
CC: armantrout@wo*.at*.ne*, nocturne_cvs@ya*.co*, cavers@cavers.com
Subject: Re: Bent Jill
Scott, half of the divers in Mexico have been drooling over that stupid
Pit for years, and as you know I personally avoid deep bounce diving
since even a monkee could do it, but this was too much to resist - the
potential to get so many pairs of panties in a wad in one shot was more
than Trout and I could resist, so we went there as part of another fun
diving trip we were doing.

After the dive, I saw the Trout take off his hundreds and write "3500
psi" on the tape . A stage bottle to do what it takes the strokes many
bottles and rebreathers to do and many days of Charlie Foxtrotting.
Trout and I just cruised in and had a nice little dive, and even had a
few laughs when we got totally silted out from the ceiling at 350. I was
trying to find Trout, and could not even see his glow, but could feel
him and hear his breathing. I reached out and tried to grab him to pull
him towards me, since I had the line held in one hand ( he was cutting
it from his rel and tying off), and I pulled his mask off. He thought I
was just goofing on him. 

There are several leagues of diving. We do not recognize the screwups
and the slobs who lie about their dives, and who constantly claim they
did what they did not, and who continue with the officious , "step aside
for the expert " attitude that I hate in cave divers. That is why I love
to make fun of them.

Jil Henierth is the worst of a bad lot of liars and is a disgrace to the
sport and is setting the worst possible example, and will continue to
hear from the WKPP so long as she continues to lie .

Nobody on here , no matter how much they dislike me, can tell me with a
straght face that it is OK for Jill to lie about the dives at Wakula and
to claim "records" that she does not have. Can anyone jusjify that to
me?

Scott Landon wrote:
> 
> jess,
> 
> these keyboard divers aren't ready to do a 35 foot cave dive, let alone a
> 350 foot one.  they don't understand what it is like to hike miles into the
> jungle in scorching heat and getting dehydrated before making a deep dive.
> they've got the MGD in one hand and the bong in the other.  i would say that
> they are not even qualified to carry your tanks to the water, so you better
> leave that to the pros as well.  just focus on K tunnel.
> 
> scott
> 
> >From: "Jess Armantrout" <armantrout@wo*.at*.ne*>
> >To: "Barbara Peterson" <nocturne_cvs@ya*.co*>, <cavers@cavers.com>
> >Subject: Re: Bent Jill
> >Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 21:33:47 -0600
> >
> >hey, try to get the whole story before you make a complete and utter
> >blithering idiot of yourself.
> >
> >I got minor skin bends on the dive, dove the next two days and flew home on
> >the third.  That's a far freaking cry from serious problems.
> >
> >Tell, me more about my lack of judgement.  Tell me how you deco from your
> >351' dives.  I love you cyberdivers second guessing the people out there
> >doing the dives.
> >
> >I never gave up diving or cave diving.  I backed off from doing anything
> >over about an hour bottom time at 300 feet.  If you would like to carry my
> >tanks to the water for me this weekend you can watch as a do a 5000 foot
> >dive at Wakulla.
> >
> >Other than the above, your post was amazingly accurate.
> >
> >Sincerly GFY,
> >Jess Armantrout
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Barbara Peterson <nocturne_cvs@ya*.co*>
> >To: cavers@cavers.com <cavers@cavers.com>
> >Date: Tuesday, March 28, 2000 5:04 PM
> >Subject: Re: Bent Jill
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >>>I love to see slobs like this get wacked trying
> > >> > to do what fit divers can do in their sleep. She
> > >is
> > >> pathetic.
> > >> >
> > >
> > >
> > >An event occurred a few months ago.  I don't remember
> > >the name of the individual, tho I believe he was WKPP
> > >endorsed, who executed poor judgement on a cave dive.
> > >He had trekked all the way to the site (in Mexico?)
> > >and was exhausted, went diving anyway, and serious
> > >problems resulted.  I don't remember the exact
> > >details.  However the resultant illness caused him to
> > >give up diving for a while.  Anyone else remember
> > >this?  In any event, he was a pro, exercised poor
> > >judgement due to the fact that he was tired, and paid
> > >the price.  But since he was a WKPP-er...
> > >
> > >As for Sally Ride, she was not a dillettante who had
> > >forced her way onto the shuttle in a position of
> > >power.  She was a mission specialist, a public
> > >relations stunt, sure, if you like, but since she was
> > >a passenger and not in charge of piloting the shuttle
> > >or using substandard material to design/build the
> > >shuttle, to even equate her to Jill Heinerth is foolish.
> > >
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