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Thanks, Dan. I understand what you said, but having never tried the wings, what's the problem with them? > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan L. Volker [mailto:dan@sf*.co*] > Sent: Friday, March 10, 2000 11:09 AM > To: 'Kreska Jack-FJK003'; trey@ne*.co* > Cc: cavers@cavers.com > Subject: RE: Bondage Wings?/ Now 7 warning signs of cancer.... > > > The point George is making is that several visual clues exist > that will help > all of us to see accidents waiting to happen, and potentially > this warning > can be used to intervene on some occasions. > > If you see a guy wearing bondage wings, about to step into a > potentially > dangerous environment, a warning flag should go up for > you----the fact that > he is wearing it suggests to me he is listening to the wrong > people, and > buying gear for its look in the showroom over its function > underwater. It > should push you to look further, and see if the other "seven > warning signs > of cancer" are there as well---the more signs, the more > likely you are to > feel a responsibility to intervene....1. stuffed long > hose...2. Console > with computer hanging down to knees, waiting for entanglement..3 large > numbers of D-Rings sporting an assortment of dive gear which > does not belong > with him on this dive, along with bondage wings...4. stage > bottle hanging on > each side of him...5. Instead of tank markings, poodle > jackets or color > scheming...6. Wearing Original Force fins or newer bio fins, > and oblivious > to the shame of it :-) ...7 ..and of course, if he has a > Spare Air strapped > on :-) > > Actually, the list could be larger, but the idea is, bad mind > sets and poor > skill sets are going to correlate well with certain gear choices and > configurations. We see this time and time again with the > past deaths. No, > the bondage wings themselves did not kill this guy; but the > mindset that > allowed him to wear gear like this will suggest to many of us that an > accident will be following this guy--if not today, in his foreseeable > future.... > > When a guy dies and someone asks if he was wearing bondage > wings, you might > interpret this like seeing a car crash going the wrong way on > an Interstate, > and asking if the guy was drunk.... > > Dan Volker > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kreska Jack-FJK003 [mailto:Jack_Kreska-FJK003@em*.mo*.co*] > Sent: Friday, March 10, 2000 9:55 AM > To: 'trey@ne*.co*' > Cc: 'cavers@cavers.com' > Subject: RE: Bondage Wings? > > > Gee, George, or Pal, when did I ever recommend bondage wings? > As far as what > I use, how would you have any idea, we've never met and I > seriously doubt > you've ever seen me dive since I'm not qualified to do the > type of diving > you do. > > Your arrogance and conceit don't contribute to the sport > much. I simply > asked how bondage wings could have contributed to his death > and all you > "superior divers" respond as if I'm supposed to know or I'm > stupid and a > stroke for not knowing. Since I've never tried them, how > should I know? > > Now, how about a reasonable response from someone? Maybe Bill > Mee, he seems > to be able to converse intelligently. > > Jack > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: trey@ne*.co* [mailto:trey@ne*.co*] > > Sent: Friday, March 10, 2000 8:37 AM > > To: Kreska Jack-FJK003 > > Cc: 'Pete J Stueve'; cavers@cavers.com > > Subject: Re: Bondage Wings? > > > > > > Gee, Jack, I don't know. Let's see here. We have a fine > > performance by a > > pair of real pros : one who obviously can't dive and dies > proving it, > > and a true stroke who leaves buddy per the Rennaker "who is the most > > improtant diver" mentality. > > > > Let me ask you this , Jack, what kidn of MORON uses bondage > wings? Is > > this an example, or what? > > > > Look, pal, I am real sick of you and the mentality you > represent. You > > don't get it. People are dying and you geniuses can't see the big > > picture. The big picture is that most of you have no clue how > > to do any > > of this, and you are all honding hands in your ingnorance and trying > > desperately to defend your bullshit practices, bullshit thinking , > > bullshit gear, and bullshit instruction - all contibuting factors to > > this INEVEITABLE outcome in my opinion. > > > > > > Kreska Jack-FJK003 wrote: > > > > > > What does that have to do with his death? Notice that he > > still had air and > > > the reg was out of his mouth. Seems like he panicked to me???? > > > > > > Jack > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Pete J Stueve [mailto:pstueve@ju*.co*] > > > > Sent: Friday, March 10, 2000 6:55 AM > > > > To: cavers@cavers.com > > > > Subject: Bondage Wings? > > > > > > > > > > > > George asked a couple days ago was the guy at Little > River wearing > > > > bondage wings. Yes, the dead diver was indeed wearing > > bondage wings. > > > > > > > > pete > > > > > > > > >
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