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Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 20:25:10 -0500
To: KarstDive@ao*.co*, cavers@cavers.com
From: Scott and Heather Hunsucker <swhac@pc*.gu*.ne*>
Subject: Re: nacd and nss views on safety....
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I don't know your name,
   There is nothing I gain from a "title", if anything I lose several items by
volunteering to help run an organization that represents cave diving.  At least
5 times a year I drive to G'ville, stay there overnight, dive only once 5 hrs
from home, when I could be in Tally diving and be home that evening.  I answer
countless emails and phone calls,  deal w/ politicians, reporters, new cave
divers, old cave divers, government employees, drive to other cities to attend
political meetings, deal w/ lawyers, planners, finance people, land owners,
scientists, and the general public.
   I have to conduct myself like an adult and a professional everywhere I go
(natural occurrence), I can't laugh w/ my friends at what I see.  I have to use
tact in everything and with everyone.  I (and all of us, some quite poorly I
might add) represent cave diving.  When the public sees one cave diver, they
believe they have seen us all.  Imagine if we all had your attitude or that of
Bill Rennaker, where would be . . . in the ocean, because there would be no
cave diving.
   There are several people in this sport and all of us have different opinions
and wants.  Luckily we live in a country that will allow us to express them.  I
do not agree w/ one word that Rennaker said (or any action that I have ever
seen him take), and I am sure that the BOD does not agree w/ his statements
either, but 5 of us have to get together and hash out one statement, it does
not happen overnight.
   You are more than welcome to take my seat, I have more diving to do than I
have time for and would like to get back to it, but there is a lot to do.  You
can't just walk around spouting off your "title", it takes effort, time, money,
a huge amount of patience, and a large shaker of salt.  By the way, you will
get nothing in return for your efforts.  
   All of this, plus team commitments in Tallahassee, school, work, research,
wife, house, yard, etc.  I do more than my share for cave diving, what have you
done for it lately?

Sincerely,
Scott Hunsucker
Director, NACD

P.S. If a journal that represents its members prints a statement made by one
member, it does not mean the organization condones the activity.  I am
surprised that the article was not prefaced w/ a disclaimer.  However, anyone
can write and submit articles for publication, including you.  Put your
opinions in print and send them around the world, stop spewing fluff on the
net.

>hey guys give it up...most if not all of the board members could care less 
>about anybodys safety....they only want the title....if anyone of them cared 
>they would start revolking training cards....but they don't...they only come 
>up with excuses why they can't or should'nt......it's just like 
>politics....we vote them in....and nobody wants to get together to 
>oust...these people.....just today i heard someone say they will continue to 
>solo because of the article in the journal....it seem the nacd must support 
>this idea....they printed it.....
>
>safe diving, and bring a buddy or stay home

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I don't know your name,<br>
   There is nothing I gain from a "title", if
anything I lose several items by <b><u>volunteering</b></u> to help
run
an organization that represents cave diving.  At least 5 times a
year I drive to G'ville, stay there overnight, dive only once 5 hrs from
home, when I could be in Tally diving and be home that evening.  I
answer countless emails and phone calls,  deal w/ politicians,
reporters, new cave divers, old cave divers, government employees, drive
to other cities to attend political meetings, deal w/ lawyers, planners,
finance people, land owners, scientists, and the general public.<br>
   I have to conduct myself like an adult and a professional
everywhere I go (natural occurrence), I can't laugh w/ my friends at what
I see.  I have to use tact in everything and with everyone.  I
(and all of us, some quite poorly I might add) represent cave
diving.  When the public sees one cave diver, they believe they have
seen us all.  Imagine if we all had your attitude or that of Bill
Rennaker, where would be . . . in the ocean, because there would be no
cave diving.<br>
   There are several people in this sport and all of us have
different opinions and wants.  Luckily we live in a country that
will allow us to express them.  I do not agree w/ one word that
Rennaker said (or any action that I have ever seen him take), and I am
sure that the BOD does not agree w/ his statements either, but 5 of us
have to get together and hash out one statement, it does not happen
overnight.<br>
   You are more than welcome to take my seat, I have more
diving to do than I have time for and would like to get back to it, but
there is a lot to do.  You can't just walk around spouting off your
"title", it takes effort, time, money, a huge amount of
patience, and a large shaker of salt.  By the way, you will get
nothing in return for your efforts.  <br>
   All of this, plus team commitments in Tallahassee, school,
work, research, wife, house, yard, etc.  I do more than my share for
cave diving, <b><u>what have you done for it lately?<br>
<br>
</b></u>Sincerely,<br>
Scott Hunsucker<br>
Director, NACD<br>
<br>
P.S. If a journal that represents its members prints a statement made by
<i>one</i> member, it does not mean the organization condones the
activity.  I am surprised that the article was not prefaced w/ a
disclaimer.  However, anyone can write and submit articles for
publication, including you.  Put your opinions in print and send
them around the world, stop spewing fluff on the net.<br>
<br>
>hey guys give it up...most if not all of the board members could care
less <br>
>about anybodys safety....they only want the title....if anyone of
them cared <br>
>they would start revolking training cards....but they don't...they
only come <br>
>up with excuses why they can't or should'nt......it's just like 
<br>
>politics....we vote them in....and nobody wants to get together to
<br>
>oust...these people.....just today i heard someone say they will
continue to <br>
>solo because of the article in the journal....it seem the nacd must
support <br>
>this idea....they printed it.....<br>
><br>
>safe diving, and bring a buddy or stay home<br>
</html>

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