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From: "Bill Mee" <wwm@sa*.ne*>
To: "Tom Mount" <TOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne*>, <cavers@cavers.com>
Cc: <kirvine@sa*.ne*>, "\"John R. Rose\"" <rose@cs*.sc*.ed*>,
     "\"Jesse Armantrout\"" ,
     "\"John Grogan\"" ,
     "\"Chris Elmore\"" ,
     "Ken Sallot" ,
     "Jeff Bentley"
Subject: Re: labeling reply to Bill Mee
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 17:34:53 -0400
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Tom,

What is with you?  No where in these standards can I find a mandate to =
paint 3" MOD numbers on both sides of the tanks.  This system is so =
simple and so effective as to be almost self evident.  Everyone =
understands the perfectly clear and sensible rationale for doing this.  =
Why can't you simply place this requirement at or near the beginning of =
your list?

As for the student who unfortunately breathed the unmarked unanalyzed =
gas.  This gas was described as "air" and was his "bailout".   May I =
have the temerity to ask whose idea was it to bail out to "air". Was =
this the student's or Gurr's?  Under the stressful conditions which =
might precipitate the need to bailout it would seem to me to be the last =
gas one would want to switch over to in a crisis situation. We all =
remember what happened to Rob Parker when he switched over to air deep =
and I am sure that Abner Chowdry remembers what happens under these =
circumstances all too well.

Best regards,

Bill
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Tom Mount <TOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne*>
    To: cavers@cavers.com <cavers@cavers.com>
    Date: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 3:55 PM
    Subject: labeling reply to Bill Mee
   =20
   =20
    Bill
    What is with you. We do not allow as you accuse.=20
    some idiot filled a cylinder labeled as air with a hot mix and left =
the air label on it. The diver had been using the same air cylinder all =
week as a bailout cylinder and had no reason to think someone would fill =
it with a hot mix.
    =20
    If you dived a cylinder yesterday that had air in it and was labeled =
air and you left it at for instance at Brownies dive shop  would you =
suspect overnight someone had changed the mix?
    =20
    As per IANTD mixing standards=20
    LABELING BOTTOM MIX EANx MIXTURES WITH LESS THAN 41% OXYGEN


        a.. Where applicable cylinders must be marked per legal =
requirements in addition to the below=20


        b.. Cylinders painted yellow must be labeled with a 4 inches (10 =
centimeters) green band. The band must wrap around the tank starting at =
the flat of the cylinder. The label must state "Enriched Air Nitrox" (or =
an applicable acronym). IANTD has EANx decals available for labeling =
tanks.=20


        c.. Cylinders painted with colors other than yellow require a 6 =
inches (15 centimeter) Enriched Air Nitrox band (decal) with the top 1 =
inch (2.5 centimeters) and the bottom 1 inch (2.5 centimeters) yellow. =
The middle of the band (decal) should be printed with a green background =
and the message, "Enriched Air Nitrox" (or an applicable acronym) =
printed in yellow for easy identification.=20


        d.. Nitrox (EANx) cylinders must have Cylinder Contents Labels =
affixed to them. The Contents label must state the oxygen percentage =
currently in the cylinder and the Maximum Operating Depth (MOD). The =
label must be dated and signed by the person who purchased (or =
requested) the mix (verifying he/she confirmed the O2 percentage).=20


        1.. This label may be a separate label, or part of the EANx =
band. IANTD has waterproof, reusable Cylinder Contents labels and =
cylinder content tape available for order.=20


        1.. Nitrox (EANx) cylinders must have a current Visual =
Inspection (VIP) decal stated that oxygen-compatible lubricants have =
been used in the system (valve, tank neck, and/or cylinder). EANx =
cylinders used with EAN 41, or greater, or for direct partial pressure =
blending use, must have an Oxygen Service Rated VIP decal. IANTD has VIP =
decals (which also cover both tank and valve inspections) available for =
order.=20

        a.. It is recommended that an additional label using one of the =
following options be used, these do not replace the requirement for the =
wrap around labels
    I A Decal stating MOD to be placed length wise on the cylinder (IAND =
inc./IANTD has these with both a fixed=20

    MOD plus blank ones for the user to fill in the MOD, these are blue =
with white lettering=20

    II The MOD may also be painted on the cylinder

    III A cylinder wrap suitable for regulator hose storage with the MOD =
boldly marked on it may also be used=20

    (these are also available through IAND inc. / IANTD


   =20

    D. LABELING EANx AND DECOMPRESSION CYLINDERS (GREATER THAN 40%) AND =
OXYGEN (OR MIXTURES GREATER THAN 85% OXYGEN) MIXTURES


        a.. Cylinders containing EAN 40 to 84 must have either a =
color-coded green and white label decal boldly stating, "Decompression =
Mix EAN* _____." or they may use the "Breathing Gases Other Than Air" =
decal that is red and white. (Note! This decal may be used with any gas =
mixture as long as the mix and MOD are filled in) This label must be 10 =
inches (25 centimeters) long and 4 inches (10 centimeters) wide. IANTD =
has Cylinder Contents labels available for order. * Or, equivalent =
acronym. These labels must be wrapped around the cylinder at the flat of =
the cylinder=20


        b.. The decompression cylinder with the highest EANx mixture or =
oxygen must have some form of protective mechanism to prevent the diver =
from accidentally breathing from it. This may be a cover, bungie wrap or =
other suitable means. IAND inc. / IANTD has a protective device =
available=20


        c.. All decompression cylinders must have a tape or label above =
the flat of the cylinder visible to the user with the mix or MOD or both =
marked. IAND inc. IANTD has these with pre marked mix and MOD as well as =
ones with blank spaces for the user to fill in.=20


        d.. Cylinders containing oxygen levels of 85% or greater must =
adhere to one of the following:=20


        1.. Be painted either green or white with the word oxygen and =
MOD 20 fsw (6 msw) legible=20


        2.. Have a 10 inches (25 centimeters) long by 4 inches (10 =
centimeters) wide green adhesive band decal with the word "OXYGEN" and =
MOD clearly and prominently printed in white on it. IANTD has waterproof =
Oxygen Cylinder Decals available for order.=20

        a.. It is recommended that an additional label using one of the =
following options, these do not replace the requirement for the wrap =
around labels
    I A Decal stating MOD to be placed length wise on the cylinder (IAND =
inc./IANTD has these with both a fixed=20

    MOD plus blank ones for the user to fill in the MOD, these are blue =
with white lettering=20

    II The MOD may also be painted on the cylinder

    III A cylinder wrap suitable for regulator hose storage with the MOD =
boldly marked on it may also be used=20

    (these are also available through IAND inc. / IANTD


   =20

        a.. LABELING TRIMIX MIXTURES

        a.. Cylinders containing Trimix must be labeled with the word, =
"Trimix", or "Breathing gas other than air". A Cylinder Contents Label =
or tape reflecting the percentages of Oxygen, and Helium must be affixed =
to the tank.=20

    =20

   =20
    Respectfully yours,
    Tom Mount
    CEO IANTD World HQ
    http://www.iantd.com
   =20
   =20
    Respectfully yours,
    Tom Mount
    CEO IANTD World HQ
    http://www.iantd.com


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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000>Tom,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>What is with you?  No where in these standards can I find a =
mandate to=20
paint 3" MOD numbers on both sides of the tanks.  This system =
is so=20
simple and so effective as to be almost self evident.  Everyone =
understands=20
the perfectly clear and sensible rationale for doing this.  Why =
can't you=20
simply place this requirement at or near the beginning of your =
list?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>As for the student who unfortunately breathed the unmarked =
unanalyzed=20
gas.  This gas was described as "air" and was his=20
"bailout".   May I have the temerity to ask whose =
idea was=20
it to bail out to "air". Was this the student's or =
Gurr's?  Under=20
the stressful conditions which might precipitate the need to bailout it =
would=20
seem to me to be the last gas one would want to switch over to in a =
crisis=20
situation. We all remember what happened to Rob Parker when he switched =
over to=20
air deep and I am sure that Abner Chowdry remembers what happens under =
these=20
circumstances all too well.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Best regards,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Bill</DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><B>-----Original =
Message-----</B><BR><B>From:=20
    </B>Tom Mount <<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:TOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne*">TOM.MOUNT@worldnet.att.net</A>=
><BR><B>To:=20
    </B><A href=3D"mailto:cavers@cavers.com">cavers@cavers.com</A> =
<<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:cavers@cavers.com">cavers@cavers.com</A>><BR><B>Date:
=20
    </B>Tuesday, April 13, 1999 3:55 PM<BR><B>Subject: </B>labeling
=
reply to=20
    Bill Mee<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
    <DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Bill</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT><FONT size=3D2>What
is =
with you. We do=20
    not allow as you accuse. </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2>some idiot filled a cylinder labeled as air with =
a hot mix=20
    and left the air label on it. The diver had been using the same air =
cylinder=20
    all week as a bailout cylinder and had no reason to think someone =
would fill=20
    it with a hot mix.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2>If you dived a cylinder yesterday that had air =
in it and=20
    was labeled air and you left it at for instance at Brownies dive =
shop =20
    would you suspect overnight someone had changed the =
mix?</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>As per IANTD mixing standards =
</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT><B><FONT
face=3D"Arial =
Narrow" size=3D4>
    <P>LABELING BOTTOM MIX EANx MIXTURES WITH LESS THAN 41%=20
    OXYGEN</P></B></FONT><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow" size=3D1>
    <OL></FONT><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow" size=3D3>
        <P align=3Djustify>
        <LI>Where applicable cylinders must be marked per legal =
requirements in=20
        addition to the below=20
        <P></P>
        <P align=3Djustify></P>
        <LI>Cylinders painted yellow must be labeled with a 4 inches (10 =

        centimeters) green band. The band must wrap around the tank =
starting at=20
        the flat of the cylinder. The label must state "Enriched =
Air=20
        Nitrox" (or an applicable acronym). IANTD has EANx decals =
available=20
        for labeling tanks.=20
        <P></P>
        <P align=3Djustify></P>
        <LI value=3D1>Cylinders painted with colors other than yellow =
require a 6=20
        inches (15 centimeter) Enriched Air Nitrox band (decal) with the =
top 1=20
        inch (2.5 centimeters) and the bottom 1 inch (2.5 centimeters) =
yellow.=20
        The middle of the band (decal) should be printed with a green =
background=20
        and the message, "Enriched Air Nitrox" (or an =
applicable=20
        acronym) printed in yellow for easy identification.=20
        <P></P>
        <P align=3Djustify></P>
        <LI>Nitrox (EANx) cylinders must have Cylinder Contents Labels =
affixed=20
        to them. The Contents label must state the oxygen percentage =
currently=20
        in the cylinder and the Maximum Operating Depth (MOD). The label =
must be=20
        dated and signed by the person who purchased (or requested) the =
mix=20
        (verifying he/she confirmed the O<SUB>2</SUB> percentage).=20
        <P></P></LI></OL>
    <OL type=3Da>
        <P align=3Djustify>
        <LI>This label may be a separate label, or part of the EANx =
band. IANTD=20
        has waterproof, reusable Cylinder Contents labels and cylinder =
content=20
        tape available for order.=20
        <P></P></LI></OL>
    <OL start=3D4>
        <P align=3Djustify>
        <LI>Nitrox (EANx) cylinders must have a current Visual =
Inspection (VIP)=20
        decal stated that oxygen-compatible lubricants have been used in =
the=20
        system (valve, tank neck, and/or cylinder). EANx cylinders used =
with EAN=20
        41, or greater, or for direct partial pressure blending use, =
must have=20
        an Oxygen Service Rated VIP decal. IANTD has VIP decals (which =
also=20
        cover both tank and valve inspections) available for order.=20
        <P></P></LI></OL>
    <OL type=3Da></FONT><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow">
        <LI>It is recommended that an additional label using one of the=20
        following options be used, <B>these do not replace the =
requirement for=20
        the wrap around labels</LI></OL>
    <DIR>
    <DIR>
    <DIR></B>
    <P>I A Decal stating MOD to be placed length wise on the cylinder =
(IAND=20
    inc./IANTD has these with both a fixed </P>
    <P>MOD plus blank ones for the user to fill in the MOD, these are =
blue with=20
    white lettering </P>
    <P>II The MOD may also be painted on the cylinder</P>
    <P>III A cylinder wrap suitable for regulator hose storage with the =
MOD=20
    boldly marked on it may also be used </P>
    <P>(these are also available through IAND inc. / =
IANTD</P></FONT><FONT=20
    face=3D"Arial Narrow" size=3D3>
    <P align=3Djustify></P></FONT><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow">
    <P> </P></DIR></DIR></DIR></FONT><B><FONT
face=3D"Arial Narrow" =
size=3D4>
    <P>D. LABELING EANx AND DECOMPRESSION CYLINDERS (GREATER THAN 40%) =
AND=20
    OXYGEN (OR MIXTURES GREATER THAN 85% OXYGEN) =
MIXTURES</P></B></FONT><FONT=20
    face=3D"Arial Narrow" size=3D1>
    <OL></FONT><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow" size=3D3>
        <P align=3Djustify>
        <LI>Cylinders containing EAN 40 to 84 must have either a =
color-coded=20
        green and white label decal boldly stating, "Decompression =
Mix EAN*=20
        _____." or they may use the "Breathing Gases Other =
Than=20
        Air" decal that is red and white. (Note! This decal may be =
used=20
        with any gas mixture as long as the mix and MOD are filled in) =
This=20
        label must be 10 inches (25 centimeters) long and 4 inches (10=20
        centimeters) wide. IANTD has Cylinder Contents labels available =
for=20
        order. * Or, equivalent acronym. These labels must be wrapped =
around the=20
        cylinder at the flat of the cylinder=20
        <P></P>
        <P align=3Djustify></P>
        <LI>The decompression cylinder with the highest EANx mixture or =
oxygen=20
        must have some form of protective mechanism to prevent the diver =
from=20
        accidentally breathing from it. This may be a cover, bungie wrap =
or=20
        other suitable means. IAND inc. / IANTD has a protective device=20
        available=20
        <P></P>
        <P align=3Djustify></P>
        <LI>All decompression cylinders must have a tape or label above =
the flat=20
        of the cylinder visible to the user with the mix or MOD or both =
marked.=20
        IAND inc. IANTD has these with pre marked mix and MOD as well as =
ones=20
        with blank spaces for the user to fill in.=20
        <P></P>
        <P align=3Djustify></P>
        <LI>Cylinders containing oxygen levels of 85% or greater must =
adhere to=20
        one of the following:=20
        <P></P></LI></OL>
    <OL type=3Da>
        <P align=3Djustify>
        <LI>Be painted either green or white with the word oxygen and =
MOD 20 fsw=20
        (6 msw) legible=20
        <P></P>
        <P align=3Djustify></P>
        <LI>Have a 10 inches (25 centimeters) long by 4 inches (10 =
centimeters)=20
        wide green adhesive band decal with the word "OXYGEN" =
and MOD=20
        clearly and prominently printed in white on it. IANTD has =
waterproof=20
        Oxygen Cylinder Decals available for order.=20
        <P></P></LI></OL>
    <OL start=3D5></FONT><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow">
        <LI>It is recommended that an additional label using one of the=20
        following options, <B>these do not replace the requirement for =
the wrap=20
        around labels</LI></OL>
    <DIR>
    <DIR>
    <DIR></B>
    <P>I A Decal stating MOD to be placed length wise on the cylinder =
(IAND=20
    inc./IANTD has these with both a fixed </P>
    <P>MOD plus blank ones for the user to fill in the MOD, these are =
blue with=20
    white lettering </P>
    <P>II The MOD may also be painted on the cylinder</P>
    <P>III A cylinder wrap suitable for regulator hose storage with the =
MOD=20
    boldly marked on it may also be used </P>
    <P>(these are also available through IAND inc. / =
IANTD</P></FONT><FONT=20
    face=3D"Arial Narrow" size=3D3>
    <P align=3Djustify></P></FONT><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow">
    <P> </P></DIR></DIR></DIR>
    <OL start=3D6 type=3DA></FONT><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow" =
size=3D4>
        <LI>LABELING TRIMIX
MIXTURES</LI></OL></B></FONT><FONT =
face=3D"Arial Narrow"=20
    size=3D1>
    <OL></FONT><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow" size=3D3>
        <P align=3Djustify>
        <LI>Cylinders containing Trimix must be labeled with the word,=20
        "Trimix", or "Breathing gas other than air". =
A=20
        Cylinder Contents Label or tape reflecting the percentages of =
Oxygen,=20
        and Helium must be affixed to the tank.=20
        <P></P></LI></OL></FONT><FONT face=3D"Arial
Narrow"></FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
    size=3D5>
    <P></FONT> </P></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2><BR>Respectfully
yours,<BR>Tom =
Mount<BR>CEO=20
    IANTD World HQ<BR><A=20
    =
href=3D"http://www.iantd.com">http://www.iantd.com</A><BR></FONT></D
IV></=
DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2><BR>Respectfully
yours,<BR>Tom =
Mount<BR>CEO=20
    IANTD World HQ<BR><A=20
    =
href=3D"http://www.iantd.com">http://www.iantd.com</A><BR></FONT></D
IV></=
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