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Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 08:58:30 -0500
To: cavers@cavers.com
From: Charles Ayash <cagraphics@mi*.co*>
Subject: Re: UPS, Lost Shipment, Unknown Tracking Number
Yes this has gone on for years now.
I especialy warn against using them to ship
sensitive equipment ie. computer,s fragile items, etc.
The last item that I allowed shipped to me, via UPS,
was a book, and that was nearly ruined. 5 years ago.

I find that Fed Ex and the USPS do a fine job.
I also urge that if you cannot afford to lose the
package, then Insure it.

I also work from my home and if I am not here
UPS will not leave a package for my business.
FedEx has a one time waiver form and of course
the USPS leaves you a yellow slip.

I just cant believe that some one would ship a RB with UPS.
That is like using Beauchat LP Steel 170's for stage bottles,
or allowing UPS to play feetball with a RB.

Geez Beav  The whole community will clobber you.





At 06:35 AM 1/5/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Had this happen a few times last year, they somehow always managed to get it
>here one morning the ups guy came with a package their "gee whiz" tracking
>showed to still be in Washington (the state). I always tell people when your
>number one their is only one direction to go and i think ups has proved it.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Robert Lockard <robertlockard@er*.co*>
>To: rebreather@nw*.co* <rebreather@nw*.co*>;
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>Date: Monday, January 04, 1999 6:32 PM
>Subject: UPS, Lost Shipment, Unknown Tracking Number
>
>
>>I'ts not often that I send out a broadcast like this.  I think this is the
>>first time.  However; I am not happy with service I have received from UPS.
>>
>>Most of you know, about a year ago I started researching the purchase of a
>>rebreather.  I have spend a lot of time and money doing this research.
>>This included trips to look at and dive the various equipment out there.
>>So, I go ahead and purchase a MK-15 from Kevin, send him my money (quite a
>>large sum), and he gets the rig ready for me.
>>
>>Last week Kevin ships the MK-15 to me UPS, and e-mails me with the UPS
>>tracking number.  Today is Monday, and I'm thinking that I should have
>>received the MK-15.  When UPS faild to show, I'm thinking OK, its the
>>holidays, I'll go to UPS's web site enter the tracking number and find out
>>when I should expect it.
>>
>>On my first attempt I received an error that the tracking number was not in
>>the database.  So, I go back to the origional e-mail, and copy and paste it
>>into the field.  I get the same error.  So, I call Kevin, and confirm the
>>tracking number.  He confirms the tracking number so I call UPS.  I can not
>>beleve<sp> what I heard.  "Sorry that tracking number is not in our
>>system."  Ok so I ask to trace the package, and I'm told that the shipper
>>must initiate a trace.
>>
>>I call Kevin back, and he faxes me the sheet from UPS and I try again,
>>perhaps I just got someone on the line who is new.  I get the same story.
>>Then I call Kevin back again.  He calls UPS and is told well sometime the
>>package does not get scanned, and if I don't have the package by Thrusday,
>>UPS will start at trace.  Well excuse me people, this rig cost me a great
>>deal of money, I'm getting ready to go on a trip with it and UPS, has the
>>nerve to say, "WAIT."  Hey you don't have a record of the tracking number
>>because someone forgot to scan it.  That indicates there is a SERIOUS
>>problem. And for anyone who has not seen a MK-15, and the size of the box
>>it's in, I very doupt that it was overlooked, as it is in a large silver
>>box about the size of a steamer trunk.
>>
>>If there is anyone with knowledge of how to get UPS to move, and solve a
>>problem, please let me know.
>>
>>Bottom line.  I encurage everyone to use FedEx.  They are a little more
>>expensive, however, I can get on the phone or there web site and find out
>>just where a shipment is with confidance.  When UPS, solves this problem,
>>I'll send a note stating so.
>>
>>Thank you for your time.
>>
>>Respectfully
>>Robert P. Lockard
>>(o) 540.786.0169
>>(h) 540.785.2428
>>(fax) 540.785.6929
>>Robert Lockard
>>(o)   540.786.0169
>>(fax) 540.785.6929
>
>

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