All, How is it that an intersting and possibly productive discussion on the validity,(or lack there of), of Jersey Reels turns into a shouting match about George Irvine III? Where's the connection? The last I knew, he wasn't even a subscriber to this list. Obviously, if his teachings are able to reach out to a list he's not participating in and on subjects not within his normal area of interest, his methods of presentation are working! You may not agree with the system he promotes but you're obviously very aware of it!!!! As several realized, my last post was about the importance of keeping an open mind and being willing to learn from others. Choosing to disregard George's techniques, or anyone else's, based solely on their method of presentation is not being particularly open minded. Take what you will from the suggestions he offers. Reject what you find unacceptable. But please don't resort to personal attacks, mudslinging, etc. and then complain about him using those techniques! If you object to his communication techniques for pitty sakes don't emmulate them!!!!! If you have a problem with the system (hogarthian ala WKPP) then by all means point it out and offer a better method. But please do so with logic, statistical data, whatever, not with retoric. Show me that the benefits of stuffing my long hose outweighs the benefits of wrapping and breathing it and I'll be the first in line to buy surgical tubing to make the bungees. Tell me it must be bad because some of the method's proponents have a nasty attitude and I'll simply ignore your commentary. I'm open to hearing anyone's techniques. If you've got a better way of doing something that will decrease my risk exposure, I'm all ears. On the other hand, if all you folks want to do is clash over personality defects, bash egos and brag about your personal excellence, my eyes, ears and mind are closed. Now, can we get back to wreck diving? Bob D. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Please send messages for the WreckDiver list to: wreckdiver@wreckdiver.com Send subscription and help requests to: wreckdiver-request@wreckdiver.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
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