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>
>Ones diving ability revolves around several factors, all of which need 
to be
>taken into account on every dive. The amount of dives ones has is only
>relevent to the conditions those dives were made in.  A diver who has 
200
>dives in north carolina would be a better diver (my opinion), all 
things of
>course being equal, if he had made those same 200 dives here in the
>northeastern waters. I agree that that amount of dives a diver has 
does not
>indicate how good or bad a diver is. I know divers that have hundreds 
of
>dives, but you wont catch them diving here in NY waters period. And 
good for
>them, they realize that they do not have the experience for our 
waters-they
>trravel to warmer, clearer waters. And similarily, a good wreck diver 
here in
>NY with hundreds of dives, lets say to 200 feet, would be an accident 
waiting
>to happen in a cave environment withour both training and experience. 
>
>Experience. Just because one took a course does not mean he is a good 
diver
>trained at that level. What if the course was no good, filled with 
poor
>information, lack of skills during the dive portion of the course? A 
good
>diver will have both education and experience, but that experience 
does not
>necessarily carry over into conditions he was not trained in. The 
amount of
>dives an individual has is almost irrelevent. Experience and attitude,
>education and practice, makes a good diver. 
>
>Just another point of view.
>
>Safe Diving,
>
>Raimo.
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Bob,
I agree that experience , that is quality experience makes a good 
diver. Just playing around on easy dives will make one more relaxed but 
may not produce a more skillfull diver.

I challenge your statement that a NY diver with 200 divers is better 
than a diver with the same experience somewhere else. All divers learn 
in new environments. Ask me, Billy or Jim Mims how many NY divers have 
had a rough time in the current in warm clear water south fl.or who get 
kicked around when cave diving until they are used to it, It is about 
the same ratio I suspect as the Fl tech divers who visit NY waters. 
Fact is we are good in the conditions we are familar with. We all need 
to get checked out so to speak when diving a new to us environment. A 
diver with 200 quality dives should have enough wisdom to seek advice 
on new locations and with the experience should be able to adapt to the 
new skills and conditions rapidly. 

Granted you cannot go to a non flow sinkhole or a crystal clear water 
source with no current and be prepared to dive the Doria.

Good divers are good divers and usually become informed and prepared 
those who do not take these steps are experienced but not really good 
divers.

By the way did you get the e mail I sent while you were in Bonaire. I 
replied to your letter I also posted some stuff on the net.

Really sorry so many folks have slammed you on the deep dive. I thought 
you made it quite clear that it was once and not to be repeated that 
like many of us you had learned by survival. Glad to see you back. Of 
course you were bashed by your ongoing battle opponet in NY while you 
were gone don't know if you checked that material but it was rather 
pointless and does not require your response. 

Have you renewed yet hope so
Tom

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