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From: CHRISTOPHER RICHARDSON <CRICHARD@fl*.on*.ca*>
Organization: Sir Sandford Fleming College
To: rnf@sp*.tb*.co*, techdiver@terra.net
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 1995 18:06:19 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: new here
> Date sent:      Mon, 23 Oct 1995 10:26:22 +0500
> From:           rnf@sp*.tb*.co*
> To:             techdiver@terra.net
> Subject:        Re: new here

> 
> > 
> > Chris Wrote:
> > >>Man, I hope your kidding about the U352. How about in a few hundred
> > dives? Wreck penetration is never "safe", you can however reduce risk
> > to what you consider acceptable with the PROPER TRAINING and
> > experience in practicing that training(an often overlooked part).
> > 
> > 
> > Dave,
> > 
> >   I totally agree with Chris!!!!  Get some diving under your belt 
> > first!!!! You mentioned getting more certifications.  I suggest that you 
> > don't even worry about becoming a certified wreck diver, deep diver, or 
> > anyother type of diver.  Experience and attitude will led you to the road 
> > that you want to follow, but until then just get some diving in and have 
> > some fun doing it.  After all, fun is reason most of us dive in the first 
> > place.  You may decide that you don't really want to dive wrecks or deep, 
> > but you don't know that until you get some experience!  Just my opinion!  
> > Have fun diving!!!!!
> > 
> > Aloha
> > Tony
> > 
> 
> 
> I don't agree with the "get a few hundred dives before doing the U-352". It's 
> just a relatively easy recreational depth dive. Granted it's at the deep end 
> of the recreational scale (about 120 feet) but it isn't particularly
dangerous 
> if you don't do deco dives or penetration.
The recreational agencies consider a 120 fsw dive to be one which 
requires you to hold a deep specialty, which is an advanced 
specialty, or a master diver rating. You are fooling yourself, and 
the operators who take openwater divers on dives like this, 
concerning the experience required to dive to 120. I aree that in 
perfect conditions w/ zero ploblems the average diver could "go down 
and take a look" however the average openwater diver with less than 
a couple hundred dives is unprepared to handle any problems that may 
arise. Then he/she is dead. Worth it just to do a dive that w/ more 
experience it would be considered an fairly easy dive? (w/out 
penetration) Plus as this is techdiver and the orginal message was 
full of questions regarding tech diving, I think that the temptation 
to "just go in a little" would have been present. How about it 
everyone, your opion, am I being just to conservative when I 
recommend much more experience for this dive?> 

> Of course, you don't get much bottom time, but the U-352 is pretty small and 
> doesn't take much time to tour. On a no deco dive most people run out of
bottom 
> time before they do air, even on an Al-80.
> 
> I dove on the U-352 at the same time as a couple that had fewer than 20 dives 
> and they did just fine. They had done one or two other ocean dives at the 80 
> to 90 foot level and one on an artificial reef at 60-70 feet.
> 
> That's kind of the normal progression in North Carolina diving. My fist ocean
> dive was on a wreck at 95 feet. I think it was my 15th dive. No big deal.
Never is a big deal untill something goes bad.> 
> Of course, the water was 80 degrees (F) and the vis was over 100 feet, so
it's 
> not the same as making a 95 foot dive off New Jersey.
> 
> Since the boat rides here are pretty long and sea sickness is a factor, I
guess 
> those that are not really dedicated don't bother to go. So you don't see many 
> brain-dead divers, whatever their experience level, getting hurt around here.
> 
> Rick
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