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People are recommending having anywhere from 20 to "several hundred" logged dives before diving the U-352 in 120fsw. How about somewhere in between? Although I did one 120ft dive during my NAUI Advanced class, I didn't go below 100fsw on my own (i.e. with my buddy but no instructor) until my 95th dive. BTW, the temp was 55 degress F and the vis was 20 feet. After 94 dives, I had PROPER INSTRUCTION, and with 60 hours under water, I had ADEQUATE EXPERIENCE. To answer your question, I'd recommend taking an advanced class, a wreck diving class, and have about 100 dives under your belt. There's a hell-of-a-lot to see between the surface and 100ft. -Tim Bakken > > > > > Chris Wrote: > > >>Man, I hope your kidding about the U352. How about in a few hundred > > dives? Wreck penetration is never "safe", you can however reduce risk > > to what you consider acceptable with the PROPER TRAINING and > > experience in practicing that training(an often overlooked part). > > > > > > Dave, > > > > I totally agree with Chris!!!! Get some diving under your belt > > first!!!! You mentioned getting more certifications. I suggest that you > > don't even worry about becoming a certified wreck diver, deep diver, or > > anyother type of diver. Experience and attitude will led you to the road > > that you want to follow, but until then just get some diving in and have > > some fun doing it. After all, fun is reason most of us dive in the first > > place. You may decide that you don't really want to dive wrecks or deep, > > but you don't know that until you get some experience! Just my opinion! > > Have fun diving!!!!! > > > > Aloha > > Tony > > > > > I don't agree with the "get a few hundred dives before doing the U-352". It's > just a relatively easy recreational depth dive. Granted it's at the deep end > of the recreational scale (about 120 feet) but it isn't particularly dangerous > if you don't do deco dives or penetration. The recreational agencies consider a 120 fsw dive to be one which requires you to hold a deep specialty, which is an advanced specialty, or a master diver rating. You are fooling yourself, and the operators who take openwater divers on dives like this, concerning the experience required to dive to 120. I aree that in perfect conditions w/ zero ploblems the average diver could "go down and take a look" however the average openwater diver with less than a couple hundred dives is unprepared to handle any problems that may arise. Then he/she is dead. Worth it just to do a dive that w/ more experience it would be considered an fairly easy dive? (w/out penetration) Plus as this is techdiver and the orginal message was full of questions regarding tech diving, I think that the temptation to "just go in a little" would have been present. How about it everyone, your opion, am I being just to conservative when I recommend much more experience for this dive?> > Of course, you don't get much bottom time, but the U-352 is pretty small and > doesn't take much time to tour. On a no deco dive most people run out of bottom > time before they do air, even on an Al-80. > > I dove on the U-352 at the same time as a couple that had fewer than 20 dives > and they did just fine. They had done one or two other ocean dives at the 80 > to 90 foot level and one on an artificial reef at 60-70 feet. > > That's kind of the normal progression in North Carolina diving. My fist ocean > dive was on a wreck at 95 feet. I think it was my 15th dive. No big deal. Never is a big deal untill something goes bad.> > Of course, the water was 80 degrees (F) and the vis was over 100 feet, so it's > not the same as making a 95 foot dive off New Jersey. > > Since the boat rides here are pretty long and sea sickness is a factor, I guess > those that are not really dedicated don't bother to go. So you don't see many > brain-dead divers, whatever their experience level, getting hurt around here. > > Rick > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@terra.net'. > Send subscription/archive requests to `techdiver-request@terra.net'. > -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@terra.net'. Send subscription/archive requests to `techdiver-request@terra.net'.
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