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Dear Charles:

I was informed by someone of certain comments regarding ANDI being posted on
techdiver.  I know who posted them.  After responding, I received a public,
vulgar, vitriolic response from Mr. Irvine. 

To someone else, he had remarked  "they have sunken to personal attacks, and
then can not deal with the backlash."

Why did he need to get personal with me?  I don't believe we had ever met or
that I knew him.  

Backlash?  I wasn't even talking to or about him.  

I was advocating nothing dangerous or patently unsafe.  How did his response to
me further the cause, the public's awareness, and the safety of diving in
general?


Mr. Irvine, and several others on this particular list have created their own
situation.  By allowing themselves to write without caring, they have created
techno-bully personalities that no one cares to deal with.  Their messages are
lost due to the messenger.  

I've always felt if my point isn't getting across, I change the nature of the
message, not the content, not the volume.


I made the point several weeks ago that if this list wanted to be taken
seriously by the "establishment in the industry" that it learn to act
appropriately and to "do business".  Otherwise we're just going to yawn, smile
and get back to our work.  We need not defend ourselves and our policies against
just anyone who challenges us.  And we certainly aren't required to do so with
the poorly mannered, self-appointed.

One does not demand standing and respect.  One earns it.

We are under no obligation to accept written behavior we would not accept in
person.  When we need to cut through so much crap to get at the morsels, maybe
they just aren't that valuable.

Is it possible for NOAA, US NAVY, DCIEM, Australian Navy, HSE, other
institutions, all the agencies, all the divers, essentially, most of the
conventional wisdom to be "wrong", and Mr. Irvine to be "right"?  

Of course it is.

But it's not likely.

And unfortunately he's lost as much credibility in his ability to *communicate*
as if he were speaking a foreign language.    


One cannot force people to understand or agree.  Ultimately, "right" or
"correct" is nothing but a point of view.  And, clearly, those who wouldn't
agree with that are just plain wrong, aren't they?  :)


Privately, I am

Stuart

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