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Date: 5 Oct 1995 14:02:51 -0800
From: "Gerry Smith" <gerry_smith@qm*.ca*.ed*>
Subject: Re: marker buoys
To: "JL48" <jl48@ao*.co*>
Cc: "Techdiver list server" <techdiver@terra.net>
        Reply to:   RE>>marker buoys

Jim,

The point of my post (perhaps poorly made) was that foam floats will crush at
depth.  This was an "extreme exposure" for the pelican in question, and I
probably shouldn't have included it in my post without further details so I'll
copy this to techdiver.

A few years ago I was involved in raising a large chunk of brass from the Moody
wreck off LA harbor (150 fsw.)  Our combined lift bags were not sufficient to
lift this thing so I marked it with a pelican float (on which I had extended the
line), intending to bring a line down from the boat on a subsequent dive.  On
surfacing, we couldn't find the float.  Current drag on the (extended) line had
pulled it down.

A week later we returned with a 2000 lb bag, and raised the brass with the
pelican line still attached.  I retreived the line and found the float still
attached, but a week at almost 6 atm had crushed it badly.  (looked about like
an over-cooked chicken wing) I didn't consider this Pelican's problem, so there
was no call for a warranty claim.

I like and regularly use Pelican products, including the float.  In this case, I
obviously exceeded its design parameters.  But for all around use, I prefer the
lift bag/ascent line rig.

My favorite float of all time is one with no utility whatsoever.  A yellow
plastic piece of over-engineering with a latching line reel triggered by a
non-floating arm that was supposed to stop the deployment of line when it
reached the surface.  I bought one in the 60's `cause the box had Mike Nelson's
face on it.  Crazy George Krasle in Atlanta still had dozens of these things a
couple of years ago, I bought two for $7.00 each.  They're classic.

And now back to your regularly scheduled programming...

Gerry Smith

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Date: 10/5/95 6:47 AM
To: Gerry Smith
From: JL48
Gerry:
I saw your post regarding the Pelican float.  Most of your criticisms were
dead on point, but I am intrigued by your observation about the Pelican
float crushing at depth.  I routinely wear one to depths of 120' and have
never experienced any crushing or deformation.

At what depths has this occurred for you?  Could this be a manufacturing
problem in one batch or do you think it is a design problem?

Pelican has the best warranty in the business - if anything goes wrong,
ever, send it back for repair or replacement.  No questions asked.

Jim Hall

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